

| Subject: | Re: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO |
| From: | Robert Fisher |
| Date: | Mon, 7 May 2007 16:05:03 -0700 |
Could the 'G' and the 'L' be the first letters of German words that would make sense as an option/upgrade designation in this case? Cya, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Butler" <thomas_butler@MSN.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO > general luxury? > > >>From: "mike ." <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> >>Reply-To: "mike ." <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO >>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:53:12 -0700 >> >>GTO was the designation that Ferrari used and that was indeed what it >>meant. >>[I think O was Omligato but that's homologated was what it meant] Even >>though they only produce 53 or 54 [Ferrari doesn't believe in keeping >>records] >> >>Then Pontiac borrowed it, and GT 2+2. Don't know of anyone else who used >>it >>actually. >> >>GTO run about $10 million right now. >> >>I don't. >> >>MikeWasw >> >> >>On 5/7/07 2:04 PM, "joel walker" <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote: >> >> >> What does the "GL" designation mean? >> > >> > >> > nobody really knows ... and vw never said. >> > >> > but it goes back to the semi-olden days of cars ... when the >> > manufacturers wanted to designate their luxo models from the plebian >> > grocery-carriers. ;) >> > L - usually meant Luxury or some form of that word - more 'stuff' than >> > the base models. >> > GL - was then Grande Luxury; more better than just the L. >> > GLS - was Grand Luxury Sport!! more better than L but more >> > sporty/racey than the GL. >> > GT - Grande Touring. not sport, but not luxury ... sort of comfy >> > trip-taking. >> > GTO - was Grande Touring Obligato or however you say Olbigatory in >> > Italian. :) it meant that at least 100 of these cars had been produced >> > to meet the rules of racing in certain classes under the regulations >> > of some european racing organizations. if you didn't build at least >> > 100 of them, you had to race against a different bunch of folks (who >> > usually had lots more money and bigger engines!). >> > >> > don't think i ever saw a just-G label. but there were LS, and later >> > the japanese started up the XL and XLS ... Xtra Luxury? :) >> > >> > so basically, it's just a trim/interior/accoutrements difference >> > designator .... >> > an L might have carpet (instead of the rubber mats that were used in >> > the base models) >> > but a GL might have carpet AND leather seats AND power mirrors. >> > whereas a GLS would have carpet and leather seats but a manual >> > transmission and more hp in the engine. >> > a GT might have carpet and leather seats, manual transmission and more >> > hp, but air conditioning (as standard. already figured into the >> > price), and fog lights or driving lights or both. >> > and a GTO might have almost nothing ... since it was expected that you >> > were going to fit it out with your own seats and if you're racing, you >> > don't want/need carpet, and so on. >> > >> > so it kinda works this way: >> > no letters - cheap car. >> > the more letters, the more expensive the car. >> > :) >> > >> > simple, yes? >> > >> > hope it helps. ;) >> > unca joel
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