

| Subject: | Re: oil pressure -- next round |
| From: | Thomas Pfrommer |
| Date: | Thu, 17 May 2007 10:04:03 -0700 |
Hi Dennis, I was using 20W50. Yes O had new gears and a new pump housing in, but the old cover, which i will replace now. I know that I am almost above the pressure, and this is OK. However that was measured without load. I did try it without the pressure gauge before and had it run for more than half an hour. No buzzer. Ok Lets go on a small trip (a couple of hundred meters). As soon as i was outside, the buzzer went on. So It is really something wrong when the engine gets hot. I will check the housing for wear but I ordered it from busdepot just before reassembly, and the engine run in total after reassembly not more than say 1.5 hours. The scratches though are weird. I did sand the cover down and now there are clear scratches again. Perhaps I am sucking air and not oil, as David suggested. Hm Will see. I am not sure about the loose mains, I brought it to a shop with good reputation to to the job and they ordered the bearings for me. Also I do not have a cam bearing left around, so I doubt I forgot one. They were new as well. I did the valve adjustment as written down in the Bentley, but for the two cam followers (see my reply from 11:41 PDT last night why two were different), it was a bit hard as they were not completely filled with oil, hence i could not feel the exact point when to start counting the 1 3/4 turns. Could these two followers (actually the valve adjustment) cause such a pressure drop? Hm will check again when the engine is filled with oil .... But first i will check all other stuff once it is open .... Thanks a lot Thomas Dennis Haynes wrote: > What viscosity oil are you using? This may have been mentioned but > remind me. > I doubt you have a blockage. The lenght of hose going to the guage > will not efect the reading unless you are actually flowing oil. It may > delay the reading but the final pressure reading is good. > Scratches in the oil cover is common. Dirt. Was it a new pump and > housing? You can check the housing for wear with a striaght edge and > feeler guages. The Bentley has the specs. > > 12.5 psi is almost .9 bar. While not quite the pressure that should be > there you are clsoe to satifying the switch, (.9 Bar). If you can get > maintain 2 bar, (28 psi) at 4,000 rpm, you should be safe to run. > These pressures are an indication of loose mains or out of round rods > or a missing/bad cam bearing shell. Also, how are the vlaves adjusted? > If you set the lifters with clearance, you will have some excess flow > there. They should be tight, ( touching + 1-2 turns) so that all oil > flowing through has to get forced through the rockers. > > Dennis > >> From: Thomas Pfrommer <pfrommer@PHAS.UBC.CA> >> Reply-To: Thomas Pfrommer <pfrommer@PHAS.UBC.CA> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: oil pressure -- next round >> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:03:22 -0700 >> >> Hi again, >> OK I am in bad luck i guess ..... >> after I measured the pressure (I posted the readings a few days ago) I >> realized its really oil pressure and not electronics or other stuff. OK >> got the muffler off, got the tin sheet off (I really hate this f!@#$% >> sheet), and the engine support bracket. Unfortunately, the water pipe >> did not allow to unscrew the upper nuts completely, so in the end I had >> to get the pulley off and then the water pipe. >> >> I did not make any mistakes with the gaskets. Everything as it is >> supposed to be. BUT I do see quite obvious new scratches in the cover. >> Together with the bit of oil that I saw at the pump after I ran the >> engine a bit, it looks like I have some backpressure and a blockage >> somewhere. Any other ideas? Hm in cold run I got 55psi at 1000rpm. Only >> when it warmed up, I had 12.5psi at 2000rpm (and 3 meters of tubing >> before the gauge, which will drop the pressure a bit, but not that much >> I guess). Also that was still beofer the fan of the radiator went on, >> but the engine was quite hot already. >> >> I have to admit I don't know what to do any more. I just don't want to >> open the beast again ..... I checked all oil gallys with an air pump and >> felt air coming equally out of every opening. I could not sense any >> obstacle sitting somewhere. Also the indication of the new scratches on >> the cover rather show some backpressure than too loose bearings or >> similar. I sanded the old cover flat before I put it on (now I have a >> new cover ready to be put on). Also the scratches show that all areas >> are equally scratched, so i did not flatten it at an angle. >> >> Hope someone can help me. Oh man, I hope i could drive around now, and >> now it seems that all effort wasn't worth it (besides the gain in >> knowledge about these engines ...) >> >> I need rum now >> Cheers >> Thomas > >
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