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Subject:Re: See two aitch five oh aitch and Water
From:John Rodgers
Date:Wed, 23 May 2007 02:40:05 -0500

We may be missing the boat on this ethanol thing. May be what is needed
is liquefied methane.

I drove across Montana and Wyoming and smell cow sh*t the whole trip.
With that much dung there has got to be a way of taking advantage of it
to produce methane. The other possibility is growing of water hyacinths.
They float because of the bulb they that hold methanes gas to make them
float.

John Rodgers
88 GL driver

Pensioner wrote:
> www.sacbee.com/110/story/162586.html
>
> A little math background necessary but an interesting take on fueling our
> bricks and the 'system cost' of C2-H5-OH.
>
> Remembering my organic chemistry a bit, the energy from burning hydrocarbons
> comes from breaking the C-H bonds.  The larger the number of C-H bonds the
> higher the potentential energy available in the hydrocarbon. Alcohol burns
> to CO2 and H2O.  For the enterprising, the amount of available energy in a
> mole of ethanol is left as an excercise for the bog.
>
> You can't win
> You can't break even
> You can't get out of the game
>
> -- Everyman's laws of thermodynamics.
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