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Subject:Re: Black oxide finish on stainless steel
From:Frank Condelli
Date:Wed, 23 May 2007 05:59:51 EDT

In a message dated 22/05/2007 9:28:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

I am  getting a fourth set of stainess steel screws together. This set is
to  suppliment the set I sell for the Vaangon body(not fibergalss top). It
will  supply the final screws needed for repacement to stainless steel.

What  I am going to include is 2 machine bolts for attaching the overflow
tank  near the rear bumper. 2 washers will be included as OEM. I think Vw
used  washers to prevent the paint from chipping when the screw is
tightened  against the paint.2 screws to attach the license plate door( 2
washers,  too).

4 metric sheet metal screw to attach the lens to the two license  plate
lights, just above the tag door. This is hard black plastic and can  easily
break if stressed by an oversized screw.Needs to  be  metric.Best to
replace these screws one at a time and not actually remove  the tag light
from this position it is in. It may break.

A   nylon insert lock nut and washer for the rear wiper, to help keep it
in  proper position.

Two sheet metal screws and washers for attaching the  sliding door cover to
the body.3 sheet metal screws and three washers where  the gas filler tube
attaches to the body(behind the gas cap). These two  different locations
have no soft plastic nuts for the screws to attach to,  so they need to be
mertic replacements.They fasten directly,through  steel.Dont want to cause
new steel to be exposed for rusting. This may  happen with  using an
American screw substituted. You might not mind,  but the next person would,
so I cant offer American  sized screws,  here.Sorry

Finally, the 5 black oxide screws for the lower  grill.

This is 29 pieces. Im going to sell them in a set. I think the  only other
screws on the Vanagon, not avaliabel from me, are for the end  caps and
attaching the license plate holder to the bumper( on some  Vanagons). I
could get the hardware for attaching the palstic to the lower  area on
Carat, as the big square flat spacer/washers are avaliable in  stainless
steel. The mirrors are the only stainless steel screws that VW  put on the
Vanagon at the factory .Repalcement mirrors usually supply a  plated steel
screw that will begin to rust within a week.Best to reuse your  OEM
screws,here.

This set will cost more that would be expected.This  is because of all the
metric sheet metal screws, and black oxide. The 4  machine bolts are not
expensive, costing less than the smallest of  the  metric sheet metal
screws outlined above.This is not for  everybody.There are very nice
Vanagons out there that can use them.After a  repaint, the old trim looks
marginal. Mcmaster-Carr , MSC, WW Grainger,ect  dont sell metric sheet
metal screws. Not necessary they say, as sheet metal  screw sizes are not
brain surgery. Most people substitue metric with  American.How could I do
this, and answer a complaint?

Maybe I will  get OEM style footman loops(tie downs) for the luggage rack
made up.They  are unavaliable in stainless steel as far as I can tell.Go
Westy would sell  them if they were avaliable,right?? They sell thenm in
galvanized,like you  already have. The tooling will cost $1200 alone,but
the final product would  be second to none. I may get them forged,instead
of casted.I've been  working on this. In the end the total pieces of
stainless steel on a Westy  would approach 300. I may also get the
stainless steel self tapping  screws/washers for the black plastic end
caps. I would like to offer  everything stainless ontehexterior.Even the
little frame that the license  plate attach to, and is currently rusted
badly. I thik many people treat  the license plate and what attaches it to
the vehicle , like some people  treat the little strip of land that the
county owns ,out in front of your  house. It gets ignored.

The sheet metal screws supplied in the 36  piece set I currently sell for
the exterior , all screw into soft plastic  nuts.Tail lights are an
expample. American sizes work just great. I have  sold more than 100 such
sets, since August. Not one problem!!! To  suppliment these, to complete
the exterior of the 7 passenger/westy,takes  metric only(exotehoverflow
tank and tag door), to do it right. Not sure of  the final price ,yet, but
it will be similar to the price of the 36 piece  set. Take a look
_http://stores.ebay.com/werksforwwagens_
(http://stores.ebay.com/werksforwwagens)

Roger, you beat me to the  punch.  I am reading this message AFTER I sent you
my last one.  Good  on you !  I forgot about the overflow bottle at rear.
Also, the  screws and washers for the licence plate door to body.  The footman
loops  in stainless are available.  I have a few sets here.  I got them from
either Van Cafe or Go Westy, don't remember right now.  The ones I put on
Monday were the OEM ones but I used SS machine screws with flat washers and
Nylock nuts, stuff I already had here !

Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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