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>   Very cool, useful things,  magnets......especially in my van, which is
> metal, not plastic...

Yeah, the "metal van" thing is handy. I have a neodymium magnet mount for my
fancy Garmin Nuvi GPS. I went to find a place to stick it in my '99 Chevy
work van.... nothing. Nothing at all. The entire exposed interior space up
front is plastic, or metal covered in thick foam/vinyl. I ended up having to
cut a slot in the cheap plastic dash facing  to mount a steel plate for the
magnet. I don't even want to think about all the plastic parts that are
crumbling and cracked....

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John Bange
'90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"