

| Subject: | Re: Is this the cause of my engine compression problem? |
| From: | Ben |
| Date: | Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:37:58 -0400 |
This may sound stupid to all but! with a good single LED light and a small dentist mirror you can see a lot IN the combustion chamber... at least, if a circlip had go out of the piston, it would leave heavy scratch. I use a single LED light with a small wire, insert this one IN the cylinder, put pistons all the way down/IN (NOT TC) and with the little mirror, i see enverything inside! Another way if you know the right peoples or have money, my friend as one of those microscopic flex camera, about 1/4 dia... believe me, you also see everything inside. I don't know how far is your Yosemite trip but i would go... circlip don't comme off easily, i would not worry too much about that, unless you where very sloppy doing that part of the engine. A last note for you, i just call one of my good customer, we put COFAP last year, #3 was low, around 110-115, he just told me that this cylinder is now at 145 -150, that is 5000 miles later. He bought a gage to monitor his engine so he knows. He also told me that it took a good 3000 miles before the engine felt tip top. Most if not all Vanagon engine i see have 1 lower compression cylinder, old or new. If it sound nice, you should be ok. Just so you know my friend. Now, go camping and forget about it for a little bit. Cheers, Ben David Kao wrote: >It's too early to jump on the conclusion. I will have to drop the engine >and take it apart to find out what's really wrong. > >I already did the oil trick. The compression did read higher after squirting >some oil into the spark plug hole. But the oil reduced the volume of the >combustion chamber which could contribute to higher compression reading as well. > >I have only 4 days, including today, before my planned camping trip in Yosemite. >I am trying to decide to tear down the engine before or after the trip. I can't >drop an engine in 15 minutes like you do. It's more like 3 hours for me. 4 days >is a little rush. I probably should do it after the trip to do everything right. >I don't think I will need a new gasket set. I still have one tube of gasket sealant. >Everything else can be reused still. > >I am leaning toward doing it after the trip. I will have to be careful to not push >the camper too hard. I will check the compression after returning from the trip. >It will tell if it is a break-in issue. > >Benny, thanks for taking the time to feed your experience to this list. I am sure >some listees are going to benefit from this thread in the future. I don't mind to >stumble on this rebuild. I am determined to get it done right. > >Cheers, > >David > > >--- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote: > > > >>David, now i feel bad because i told you NOT to check the rings... >> >>Let's try another compresion test, remove rocker on that side to be sure >>valve are fully close, pour a few spoons of oil (20W50) in that cylindre, >>try another compression test. If compression is higher, it must be the >>rings. It's NOT the piston pin circlip that came out and scratch the wall, >>believe me, compression would be way lower than 90, i know :-) >> >>Many have use COFAP and with great Success, BUT, sometime, they do have low >>compression at first, pistons and rings can take more than 2000 miles before >>they seat properly. >> >>Ben >> >>On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:49:23 -0700, David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote: >> >> >> >>>This is to keep everyone posted. I found the real problem eventually by doing >>>a pressure test to the engine. >>> >>>I borrowed a compressor and coverted my compression tester into an adapter for >>>pressure testing the engine. Found excessive leak in my #1 cylinder through the >>>piston rings into the crank case. I could feel a strong flow or air coming out >>>of the blowby breather hose, which has an opening inside the S shaped intake >>>rubber bellow. I could feel a strong flow of air flowing from the crank case >>>through the hose into the bellow. It pushed my finger out when I tried to block >>>it off. >>> >>>Ouch..... It's a new liner there!!! How will it leak like that? When I did the >>>same to cylinder #2 the pressure was only at 20 PSI and it pushed down the >>> >>> >>piston >> >> >>>and caught me by surprise. It could not push the #1 piston even at 50 PSI. >>> >>> >>I had >> >> >>>transmission in 1st gear and parking brake on with wooden blocks in front >>> >>> >>of the >> >> >>>front wheels. So the van did not try to run away but the tail of the van sank a >>>few inches. There was no obvious air flow through the blowby breather hose when >>>testing cylinder #2. >>> >>>Repeated the pressure test 4 -5 times and the results were consistant. >>> >>>The leak is less severe for cylinder #3. But the air flow is obvious there. I >>>think these are enough to conclude that I have leaking rings on #1 and #3 >>> >>> >>cylinders. >> >> >>>The leak was so bad it actually caused slight over heating during my >>> >>> >>weekend trip >> >> >>>of 320 miles. >>> >>>The liner is new, with 800 break-in miles. I have to conclude that Cofap is >>> >>> >>junk. >> >> >>>Or at least the set I got is near junk. Further breaking-in probably won't make >>>any improvement as I have had 800 mile on it. >>> >>>My patience is running out for now. I won't try to fix it for the next week >>> >>> >>or two. >> >> >>>I don't think I did anything wrong in istalling the liner. I did not align >>> >>> >>the rings. >> >> >>>According to Benny this is not likely a problem. I have heard that Cofap >>> >>> >>has a wide >> >> >>>range of quality distribution between junk and excellent. 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