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Subject:Re: What is it with the US? (No real van content)
From:Benny boy
Date:Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:10:11 -0400

I was reading all post about that subject, the answer is so simple:

Diesel/Hybrid = not powerfull/can not show off/can not drag race-street
race/don't make enough noise-trembling sound/look wimpy/not high enough/not
big enough.

Period.

We owned a Sunfire 2.4L, it consume more to equal fuel than our Subaru 2.5L
Red Westy! I have never seen a Sunfire in the US ????

Ben

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:34:22 -0700, Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM> wrote:

>I live way out here in the dirt in SoCal (1.5 hrs from the nearest 'city' of
>any size) and I can get diesel at probably 7 different gas stations in town.
>This place is full of those 'super-duty' pickups with the diesels in 'em-
>and yeah, they're actually being used for work.
>When you consider those, the fleets of heavy trucks the utility and
>construction companies use, the trains and the semis, there's a whole lot of
>diesel use going on already and those things aren't going to go away.
>So yeah, something's hinky when a guy can't get a 'clean diesel' for
>personal use here.
>A few years ago the U.S. Supreme court knocked down the CARB ban on diesels
>saying they didn't have the legal authority to do that, but I didn't follow
>it after that. Anybody know what happened there?
>
>Cya,
>Robert
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Loren Busch" <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:33 PM
>Subject: Re: What is it with the US? (No real van content)
>
>
>> One point I haven't seen mention is CARB.  The California CARB
>> requirements
>> drive the auto industry, at least those that want to sell in the US.  My
>> understanding is that 'Diesel' is a dirty word in California.  If true,
>> then
>> why would anyone try to market a diesel vshicle in the US?