At 03:31 PM 6/26/2007, Karl Mullendore wrote...
>Who the hell is talking about corn? Biodiesel production does not use
>corn oil. Now this on top of what I said earlier?
>
>"Corn ethanol is one of the worst ways to produce ethanol, not only in
>yield but in production costs."
>
>PLEASE, READ what is written before blindly responding.

Only if you do the same. Again, no authoritative citations to support
your claims.

The ethanol paper and article was cited primarily to meet your
objection - that some studies found net energy gains. The citation
specifically addressed that - "Patzek said that studies showing energy
gain do not take into account the amount of energy stored in the corn."
The paper gave an idea of the scale of that accounting.

The ethanol/biodiesel paper which I earlier cited was from the same
author, based on the same methodology, and reached a similar conclusion
for biodiesel in addition to ethanol. The earlier ethanol only paper
had the advantage of being freely downloadable. If you want a link to
the ethanol/biodiesel paper, I can give you one, but it costs $ (it's
from a Springer published journal).

On the other hand, if you just want to continue throwing out red
herrings, we're done here.