

| Subject: | Re: Compression, Valve Adjusting |
| From: | Bob Donalds |
| Date: | Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:15:40 -0700 |
I have seen hydraulic lifters take as much as 10 minutes to self adjust on the engine stand. This was on the assembly stand when checking compression with a with 10/30 oil at room temp. Dennis also mentioned spring tension and this reminded me that I have found when I set up the new AMC heads. As apart of my standard procedure for new heads dissasseble I touch up the seats and ports, clean, inspect and then reassemble. I also measure the installed spring pressure values as apart of the ssembly. What I see is that the new AMC springs have less pressure 64 pds installed height and the used OEM springs average 74 pds again its a used spring average 15 plus years old. My cure is to install shims or reuse OEM springs but I would not recomend doing this without checking the pressures. This new springs lower presure could be part of the hydrualic lifter problem some folks are having Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Compression, Valve Adjusting > As important as it is for the lifters to pump up to lift the vlaves > quietly, > they also have to bleed down to be self adjusting. They also need to pass > oil to the rocker which is done through the push rod. > > Lifter test! > Set the cylinder to top dead center, valves closed. Use screw driver to > lever vlave slighty open. Lifter should expand and take up slack, hold > valve > open slightly. Watch valve. In a minute or two it should let valve close. > If > it doesn't something is wrong. If valve never closes, than the slack valve > adjustement will cover for the faulty lifter or weak valve springs. > > Dennis > > >>From: Jake Beaulieu <jbeaulie@ND.EDU> >>Reply-To: Jake Beaulieu <jbeaulie@ND.EDU> >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Re: Compression, Valve Adjusting >>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:46:39 -0400 >> >>On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:18:00 -0400, Jonathan Poole <jfpoolio@GMAIL.COM> >>wrote: >> >>A recent discussion on the list encouraged me to >> >change the adjustment to 0 turns in with the engine at operating temp. >> >>Hey John, >> >>I have also been screwing around with the valve adjustment on my 1982 air >>cooled westy. I have found that setting the adjustment to 0 turns when >>warm results in good compression, but poor performance (barely keeps >>running at cold idle, very low gas mileage, low manifold vacuum 11-12in >>Hg). If I set the valves to 1-2 turns in (per the Bentley) it runs like >>absolute dog crap. Only by setting the valves to 0.006 in of clearence >>does it run well and generate decent manifold vacuum (17 in Hg). >> >>Frankly, I don't understand why the factory reccomended settings don't >>work on this motor. Wish I had a better idea of what was happening here. >> >>jake
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