

| Subject: | Re: A bit rough idle, running. Unbalanced injectors? |
| From: | Martin Jagersand |
| Date: | Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:22:19 -0600 |
With running engine I pulled one sparkplug wire at a time. For each one I would notice that the particular cylinder would stop firing, so I don't think I have a (completely) failed I checked for sparks on the plugs when I pulled them for the compression test. (plugs outside, cranking engine) Looked like strong blue spark on each plug, but I may not have been very careful to look at each. I'll redo that next time. Do you think I need to check wires and plugs more? I've got to check what timing light I have. Last used it 15 years ago. (Girlfriend at the time had a Plymouth Reliant with Mitsubishi 2.6 gas engine. Was a nicely built engine mechanically, but I never got the electronic feedback carburetor working quite right. After the car was totaled I didn't touch a gas engine until this year.) Thanks, Martin On 7/8/07, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I would go for a bad ignition wire first. The wires are usually OK but the > resistor ends by the spark lugs are hi failure items. They can both open > and short to the engine. An inductive timing light can often find the > offender. The bad wire won't fire the light. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Martin Jagersand > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:01 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: A bit rough idle, running. Unbalanced injectors? > > Hi all, > > I have a question about a gas engines rough idling and running. > This is my '94 Westy, so its the I5, but I imagine the 4cyl can > have similar symptoms/problems also. > > Symptoms are: > Rough running. Not misfiring, but just rough. > Particularly noticeable as a vibration at idle (but motor > mount ok), but also noticeable at speed and as a rough sound > when accelerating. > > I think the Westy also has somewhat worse gas mileage and > less power, though that I haven't measured this objectively. > > Trouble shooting I did: > I checked spark plugs and they are all good. > I couldn't localize it to a particular cylinder by pulling one > spark plug wire at a time. > > Compression good on all cyl. > > I checked temp sensors, and startup sequence. As far as > I see it behaves normally. (At startup has 1000rpm high idle, > warms up, drops to about 850. Two temp sensors change > Ohm-value correspondingly. Both rpm stable, but running at > both are a bit too rough.) > > Neither the VW dealer, nor another local shop could figure it out. > > Having worked only on Diesels my whole life, gas engine > electronic injections and the many ways they can give trouble > is beyond me, so I'm hoping for some advice. > > Could it be just unbalanced injectors? Tried running a couple of > tanks with injector cleaner, but didn't help. > > How difficult is it to pull the injectors on the Eurovan Westy? > I can't see them looking from the top. I could try do it myself > or take it to a garage. > > Anyone knows of a good Canadian injector service? (I found several > US web sites, but would hate have my injectors delayed in customs. > I don't have a second set) > > Thanks for any advice. > > Martin > -- > Martin Jagersand > University of Alberta > http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/ > > -- Martin Jagersand University of Alberta http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/
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