Mr Kao, if you must continue this senseless & ill-informed diatribe against
Benoit and Subaru conversions, please do it by P-mail.

The rest of us are happy to have Benoit amongst us, newfound enthusiasm of
the recently converted and all.

Benny-boy is a fully-paid-up member of the Vanagon tribe and if he wants to
share his love for fast bikes or the Atlantic Coast, that's fine by me.

Jake de Villiers

On 7/14/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Benny, You do not live in California. You may be right in the case of
> in Canada. But you are wrong in the case of California.
>
> Late model European and Japanese cars are equipped with OBD2 starting
> from 1997 or 1998 I do not remember exactly. OBD1 is old lady talk.
> Most vanagons do not even have OBD. I am not sure if any of them has.
> The last year of Vanagon is in 1991 (or 1992?).
>
> In California, and maybe New York and some other states as well, if
> you take an engine from a car and put it in your car all the original
> emission devices will need to be transplanted as well. If the car you
> take the engine from has OBD2 your designated car has to have that OBD2
> as well.
>
> I just saw an EJ25 for sale recently. It was from a 2006 Subaru something
> like that. If you put it in an 84 Vanagon you are required to take all
> emission stuff from the 2006 Subaru and put them in the 84 Vanagon.
> Believe
> me a 2006 Subaru has OBD2, not OBD1. I am talking about California.
> Very likely the 2006 Subaru has a 3-way catalyst system. Your 84 Vanagon
> after the conversion will have the 3-way catalyst system mandated by
> California law. From your reply I don't think you understand what a 3-way
> catalyst system is. That's understandable. That's not in your territory.
> You don't have to care. It is a latest emission system in order to meet
> the
> latest emission requirement in some states including California.
>
> What is the point I am making? I don't need to spend $9k for exchange
> to driving at 70 MPH, 5 miles faster, as you said plus all the hassles
> from the 3-way catalyst system on my old clunker with only $1k value.
> If your clunker has a value of $15k that's another story.
>
> BTW, my OBD2 scanner cost me less than $100. It reads guaranteed all
> federal mandated p0xxx and p1xxx error codes, p0010 to p1866 to be more
> exact. Your $7000 scanner sure can do more but forget about it if it
> can only scan OBD1. My Bentley manual for the Passat has a complete
> list of these codes and explanation what each one means. I don't need
> a $7000 scanner even if it can scan an OBD2 system. Gosh, you are not
> trying to say if I had an EJ25 on my Vanagon I also need to have a
> $7000 scanner, are you?
>
> AutoZone will let you borrow their scanner, take it home and scan your
> car's on board diagnostic system if your check engine light is on.
> Been there done that. It is useful only to know what the problem may be.
> Resetting or erasing an error code if there is one is waste of time.
> You can't cheat something called readiness state designed in the OBD2
> to make erasing the error code useless. Dealers or manufacturers may
> have scanners that can set readiness and cheat. But if the problem
> is not fixed the error will return within a few days or week. The dealer
> will not do anything to set any of the readiness states for you. They
> want you to pay and repair.
>
> Have you been there, Benny, with your $7000 scanner? Oh, I forgot to
> mention.
> Does your subi conversion include a check engine light on the dash
> somewhere?
> It is required. When it comes on don't forget to tell your customers to go
> to a Subaru dealer, not any VW mechanic, if they can't reach you.
>
> David
>
>
>
> --- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>
> """"One example, an EJ25 from a late model year of Subaru would be a
> nightmare for the conversion."""
>
> Wrong again, we did 2 and are starting a third one (2006 x 2, 2007) i hate
> to say we... but that include me. In some ways, it's almost easier.
>
> """You would have to have the 3-way catalytic system transplanted
> into the vanagon.""""
>
> Wrong again, first, there is only 2 OS, the second one is only a warning
> one
> for cloggued cat, very different design than Honda or Toyota. A VW 2.1EMICO
> cat is just perfect. Now, the challenge was more around the fuel pressure
> system, but again, easily solve by Hans from Vanaru.
>
> """When the OBD2 system calls for an error code you would be sorry and you
> would wish you never heard of the conversion. Been there"""
>
> Sure if you plug an OBD (not 2 by the way) you will have errors, a lot,
> like
> your door is not close so the engine won't start, he he he. But now, you
> need to know about OBD reader and how to use them... my shared!! reader
> cost
> 7000$. You have been there?
>
>
>
>
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Jake
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