

| Subject: | Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22 |
| From: | David Kao |
| Date: | Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:00:45 -0700 |
You are more than welcome to delete my post if you do not want to see them I have received more than enough pmails from those who agree with me not to convert. In my opinion Benny's love with his bike has no Vanagon content whatsoever. David --- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: > Mr Kao, if you must continue this senseless & ill-informed diatribe against > Benoit and Subaru conversions, please do it by P-mail. > > The rest of us are happy to have Benoit amongst us, newfound enthusiasm of > the recently converted and all. > > Benny-boy is a fully-paid-up member of the Vanagon tribe and if he wants to > share his love for fast bikes or the Atlantic Coast, that's fine by me. > > Jake de Villiers > > On 7/14/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Benny, You do not live in California. You may be right in the case of > > in Canada. But you are wrong in the case of California. > > > > Late model European and Japanese cars are equipped with OBD2 starting > > from 1997 or 1998 I do not remember exactly. OBD1 is old lady talk. > > Most vanagons do not even have OBD. I am not sure if any of them has. > > The last year of Vanagon is in 1991 (or 1992?). > > > > In California, and maybe New York and some other states as well, if > > you take an engine from a car and put it in your car all the original > > emission devices will need to be transplanted as well. If the car you > > take the engine from has OBD2 your designated car has to have that OBD2 > > as well. > > > > I just saw an EJ25 for sale recently. It was from a 2006 Subaru something > > like that. If you put it in an 84 Vanagon you are required to take all > > emission stuff from the 2006 Subaru and put them in the 84 Vanagon. > > Believe > > me a 2006 Subaru has OBD2, not OBD1. I am talking about California. > > Very likely the 2006 Subaru has a 3-way catalyst system. Your 84 Vanagon > > after the conversion will have the 3-way catalyst system mandated by > > California law. From your reply I don't think you understand what a 3-way > > catalyst system is. That's understandable. That's not in your territory. > > You don't have to care. It is a latest emission system in order to meet > > the > > latest emission requirement in some states including California. > > > > What is the point I am making? I don't need to spend $9k for exchange > > to driving at 70 MPH, 5 miles faster, as you said plus all the hassles > > from the 3-way catalyst system on my old clunker with only $1k value. > > If your clunker has a value of $15k that's another story. > > > > BTW, my OBD2 scanner cost me less than $100. It reads guaranteed all > > federal mandated p0xxx and p1xxx error codes, p0010 to p1866 to be more > > exact. Your $7000 scanner sure can do more but forget about it if it > > can only scan OBD1. My Bentley manual for the Passat has a complete > > list of these codes and explanation what each one means. I don't need > > a $7000 scanner even if it can scan an OBD2 system. Gosh, you are not > > trying to say if I had an EJ25 on my Vanagon I also need to have a > > $7000 scanner, are you? > > > > AutoZone will let you borrow their scanner, take it home and scan your > > car's on board diagnostic system if your check engine light is on. > > Been there done that. It is useful only to know what the problem may be. > > Resetting or erasing an error code if there is one is waste of time. > > You can't cheat something called readiness state designed in the OBD2 > > to make erasing the error code useless. Dealers or manufacturers may > > have scanners that can set readiness and cheat. But if the problem > > is not fixed the error will return within a few days or week. The dealer > > will not do anything to set any of the readiness states for you. They > > want you to pay and repair. > > > > Have you been there, Benny, with your $7000 scanner? Oh, I forgot to > > mention. > > Does your subi conversion include a check engine light on the dash > > somewhere? > > It is required. When it comes on don't forget to tell your customers to go > > to a Subaru dealer, not any VW mechanic, if they can't reach you. > > > > David > > > > > > > > --- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote: > > > > """"One example, an EJ25 from a late model year of Subaru would be a > > nightmare for the conversion.""" > > > > Wrong again, we did 2 and are starting a third one (2006 x 2, 2007) i hate > > to say we... but that include me. In some ways, it's almost easier. > > > > """You would have to have the 3-way catalytic system transplanted > > into the vanagon."""" > > > > Wrong again, first, there is only 2 OS, the second one is only a warning > > one > > for cloggued cat, very different design than Honda or Toyota. A VW 2.1EMICO > > cat is just perfect. Now, the challenge was more around the fuel pressure > > system, but again, easily solve by Hans from Vanaru. > > > > """When the OBD2 system calls for an error code you would be sorry and you > > would wish you never heard of the conversion. Been there""" > > > > Sure if you plug an OBD (not 2 by the way) you will have errors, a lot, > > like > > your door is not close so the engine won't start, he he he. But now, you > > need to know about OBD reader and how to use them... my shared!! reader > > cost > > 7000$. You have been there? > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Boardwalk for $500? 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