

| Subject: | Re: 87 still not starting, need fuel pump advice |
| From: | David Kao |
| Date: | Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:38:10 -0700 |
You don't need to prime the fuel line beyond the pump. You only need it for the fuel line before the pump. Maybe you have a clog in the fuel line between the pump and the Tee. David --- Anthony Kimmons <akimmons@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, I suctioned the larger line coming from the tank and got fuel > without a problem. > So, I figured that I'd reconnect the fuel pump and suction from the > back of the van. > I put a small hand vacuum pump on the line that comes into the tee > (where you can check the pressure), but could get no gas out of there. > It was actually able to hold a vacume! Thinking that there must be > something clogging the fuel pump or the line? The filter is new. > Feeling like I'm closing in on it though finally... > > > > On 7/21/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It's called priming the pump. Zoltan, you made an excellent point. > > Oil pump needs to have oil in it in order to pump. Same reason. > > THe fuel pump need to have gas in it initially in order to pump gas. > > I think you have nailed the problem for Anthonany. > > > > David > > > > --- Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote: > > > > > You say, you have the pump working for that few seconds when you are turning > > > the key on. > > > The pump works. > > > And you cleaned and changed things. > > > But it was standing for a long time. > > > > > > It is possible, that you have some cavitation in your pump and need to pull > > > the fuel through first to make it pump with force. You can disconnect the > > > hose on the firewall, install one that is a couple of feet and suck on it to > > > make the gas come over the pump, then reconnect the original hose and see if > > > it starts now. > > > Zoltan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Kao" <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> > > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:59 AM > > > Subject: Re: 87 still not starting, need fuel pump advice > > > > > > > > > > You said your pump is new. So it is not very likely to be bad. > > > > If you are not getting fuel at the injectors perhaps your pump is > > > > not receiving fuel to pump. > > > > > > > > You may want to think about things at the time when the problem first > > > > started. > > > > > > > > You said you put in a new seal kit for your gas tank and your pump > > > > was new and you crank the engine with no start. The question is did it > > > > start before you changed anything? What prompted you to make changes > > > > to the seal and the fuel pump? > > > > > > > > The ECU, ignition module, fuel pump relay and the pump are all realted. > > > > You may need to swap each of them with good ones, one at a time, to see > > > > which one is causing the problem. > > > > > > > > A You Pull kind of junkyard can be a place for treasure hunt for these > > > > things. I have two vanagons so I do my treasure hunt between two vanagons. > > > > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Anthony Kimmons <akimmons@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Still having starting issues with me 87 GL. > > > >> > > > >> I was not getting power to my fuel pump and have replaced the relays, > > > >> ignition switch, and alternator because I noticed the regulator was > > > >> bad due to the old alternator wobbling. Just finished a job replacing > > > >> fuel tank seals and new fuel filter. > > > >> > > > >> Now I'm getting power to the fuel pump at least. Connected a test > > > >> light and it goes on when I turn the key, stays on briefly (a couple > > > >> of seconds) and then turns off. I understand this is normal. But, > > > >> there is no fuel getting to engine. Engine cranks fine, but does not > > > >> turn over. > > > >> > > > >> I bought the fuel pump new a few years back, but my van has been > > > >> sitting for quite awhile. > > > >> Wondering now if the pump has "frozen" up from crap or water that may > > > >> have been in my tank. Is it possible to test for this? Is there anyway > > > >> to clean out the fuel pump or make sure it turns properly? > > > >> > > > >> Man! I was really hoping that it would start right up today! Any other > > > >> suggestions? > > > >> THANKS! > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > > > > with the Yahoo! 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