

| Subject: | Re: Help Needed, On the Road |
| From: | Max Wellhouse |
| Date: | Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:48:02 -0500 |
Madski: Something else to look at that's cheap is the ignition switch in the dash, especially if you use a heavy key ring. The new switches are like $10 and are used on a ton of VW's, so access in semi remot places may not be too much of a problem. I'm thinking that the O2 sensor could be the problem too though. I have experienced your identical problem, but don't recall what I did to fix it. When the tach would drip to zero, I'd coast until the van either got to the top of a hill or at lest to a safe place to park. Wait five minutes and start it up again and everything was fine for a few hundred miles. Sometimes it would las6t for a week or two. DM&FS At 09:30 AM 7/24/2007, John Rodgers wrote: >Dear Mad, > >My ignition problem experience has not been with the blue temp sensor - >never there - but with the O2 sensor and the Idle Stabilizer System. >Dennis Haynes has said more than once that it is a rare thing for there >to be problems with that sensor.( but not impossible.) Therefore, You >might try these steps to see if they are involved in your troubles. > >O2 sensor - just disconnect it right there in the engine bay. Follow >the wire from the sensor to it's connector in the engine bay and simply >disconnect it. Then drive a while and see if the problem is still there >or goes away. The engine will run just fine with the O2 sensor >disconnected. The system is designed that way just to ensure you can get >home for repairs in the event of a failure on th road. You will suffer a >small fuel economy loss while running disconnected, but it is of small >consequence short term. Enjoy your trip, then fix it. > >Idle Stabilizer Valve/Control - sometimes this system goes bad and will >cause the engine to run funny. It can be either the vale or the control >box that goes bad, or both. Usually when one gailes the other follows. >Crank the engine, warm it up, shut it down, disconnect the clip at the >end of the valve - the valve being that little round cylindrical device >that sits right on top of the 2.1L engine with a tube going to the AFM. >With the clip disconnected, start the engine and run on the highway for >a while. Won't hurt a thing. See how your engine performs. At idle you >may need to turn off your AC, because the Idle Stabilizer System kicks >up your engine speed to ensure the AC load doesn't stall your engine at >idle. Same is true for the Power Steering. If you turn from lock to lock >on the steering the load on the pump may stall the engine when the Idle >Stabilizer System is disabled. > >I would drive a good distance in either of these configurations to be >sure and give the engine time to displays it's faults. In each case, if >the faults don't display, then you have isolated the problem to the >system involved and can easily remedy it. > >Good luck. Enjoy your trip. > >Regards, > >John Rodgers > >mad madeline wrote: >>We launched a trip from Phoenix to No. Calif. >> At 450 miles into the trip our 87 engine, that has been running >> really good for the last 3K miles, began to stumble. We've been >> using Chevron all along the way, the problem started 100 miles >> after a fill up with Chevron. Talked to our mechanic... but not >> being at the shop we haven't come up with an answer. >> >> The symptoms are that it feels like it is cutting out >> intermittently. We don't know if its ignition or fuel. At first >> the cutting out was radical and we hardly made to our >> destination. Then at our mechanic's advice, we checked the blue >> plug connecton that goes to the thermostat housing and wiggled the >> spark plug wires to see if they were loose... this may have helped >> it some... not sure, but afterward it seemed to not be as radical. >> We can actually drive it at high speed now and it cuts out only >> once in awhile. Doesn't seem like it will die and we'll get >> there, just a bit obnoxious! >> >> Sometimes it caughs several times, sometimes only once. The >> tach drops each time, but not all the way to 0. The fuel pump >> does not sound loud. We had a new ox sys 2K ago and everything >> else was replaced within the last 3K. We don't find it related >> to hills or high temp or low. No overheating issues. No head leaking. >> >> We are in Carpenteria right now. Tomorrow heading up 101 toward >> SLO and then San Jose. Any ideas would be much appreciated... or >> a shop along the way that would pay to stop at. I don't look >> forward to this for another two thousand miles. Mad Madeline >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. >> >>
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