On Jul 25, 2007, at 7:54 PM, monte merrick wrote:

> coming up the west coast from monterey to bellingham
> we passed a number of vans and busses
> lots of waves and peace signs....
>
> what's a "eurovan"?

The next generation VW van produced from 1991-2003

Tom B.- it's not a vanagon

>
> If I have unjustly wrested a plank from a drowning man, I must
> restore it to
> him though I drown myself. - henry thoreau
>
> On 25 Jul 2007, , at 16:54, Tom Buese wrote:
>
>> I purposely didn't diz Bays as I knew Greg would proudly & correctly
>> defend them, as he should.
>>
>> Tom B.-Bob the Tomato ain't no "Fat Chick"
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Greg Potts wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> BITE YOUR TONGUE!!   Baywindows own second place, by virtue of
>>> preceding the vanagon design. If it hadn't been for the baywindow,
>>> you snooty vanagonauts wouldn't enjoy crash-proof bumpers, disk
>>> brakes, hydraulic valves or sliding doors as a standard feature. The
>>> standard vanagon camper interior was also seen in 1976-79
>>> baywindows.
>>>
>>> Didn't you ever hear the saying "Respect your elders."?  That also
>>> applies in this situation. I am sorry if you're not content in third
>>> place, but that doesn't mean I'm going to let you get uppity. ;-P
>>>
>>> Personally, If I see a VW with a pop-top, I wave. I also wave at
>>> vanagons, even if they don't have a pop-top. I don't usually wave at
>>> Eurovans without a pop-top; those people wouldn't understand anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy Trails,
>>>
>>> Greg Potts
>>> 1973/74/77/79 Westfakia "Bob The Tomato
>>> www.pottsfamily.ca
>>> www.busesofthecorn.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25-Jul-07, at 6:11 PM, David Etter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Brendan:
>>>>
>>>>        It's like I've always said. There is a hierarchy to owning a
>>>> Westy or VW Van.
>>>> At the top of the heap are the 'Splitties' then come the 'Vanagon'
>>>> models (arguments with the 'Bays' still arise here) then  the 'Bay
>>>> Window' AND at the bottom of the list lie the Eurovans, (Phew! open
>>>> the windows in here)
>>>
>>>> SNIP
>>>
>>>>        The Bays would have locked into second place with their
>>>> air-cooled engine but the Vanagon model was such an improvement in
>>>> space and interior design plus the loss of the split window was to
>>>> lose any collector's value.
>>
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