

| Subject: | Re: VW FOX - Been driving one since Feb. but have not seen one other than mine. Why? |
| From: | Richard Golen |
| Date: | Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:03:51 -0400 |
The VW Fox was actually the old VW Dasher/Audi Fox from the late 70s/early 80s. The tooling was shipped off to Brazil and they then produced them. At 05:54 PM 7/26/2007, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote: >The VW Fox - the boxy one, the one made in Brazil( not the Dasher fox ) ...? > >Great if you love your fine little ride. >I haven't seen one of those alive around here ( southern Oregon, and west >coast in general ) for a long time. >No offense but they are considered a real POS. > >One thing I can tell you, you DO NOT want to do a clutch cable on one. >Possibly the most nightmarish and impossible thing to deal with up under the >dash I've ever seen, and that's from someone who has worked on thousands and >thousands of cars of all makes just about. >( well, OK, I haven't worked on a Tatra......you got me there. ) > >You can pick up VW Fox's inexpensively, that you can say for sure ! > >You probably could get 5 for 1,000 bucks and stay in a set of wheels until >they don't have gas and normal car driving anymore. >We are in a very lucky age of automobile history......and we are near the >end of the 'era of practical, and fully driver-controlled cars." > >Pretty soon, if you are on a freeway in heavy traffic at high speed, and you >tell a hyper modern car to do a sudden lane change at full throttle, the >car, due to built in intelligence, just will not do it. >You command full right steering lock and 100 % throttle...the car would just >say 'nope, not doing it." >Probably get a display that says 'Invalid Input Command.' And it would >continue on in its lane, spaced properly from the car in front. >Seriously, I'm reading on cutting edge car technologies..... >You figure with throttle by wire, the engine still does what you tell it to, >right. >Not on the soon to be here ones, >You command 100 % throttle at the pedal, the car does what it deems to be >the right thing with that information. > >If it's running on 4 our of 8 cylinders at the moment, for efficiency, and >you input 20 % throttle for light cruise, it knows that 70 % throttle on the >4 working cylinders is more efficient, and will net you the result you asked >for ...... >The direct link between the car's systems and the driver is being taken >away, most definitely. No burn outs, no power slides, ...durn shame. >The dumbing down of *everything* > >Heck...get this, ( sorry to go on ) in Nascar for some tracks the even >dictate what rear end ratio you MUST run, or give you a choice of two. >Traditionally, race cars are controlled by engine size, weight, dimensions >etc... >And as long as you stay within those limits, how you get around the track >the fastest is up to the car's builders.....and gear ratio has always been >tradionally 'free' thing.... >They're taking away individuality and creativity. >Durn shame. >Scott > www.turbovans.com >if wanting to comment and not use up bandwidth here, can continue on >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/turbovans/ > >comments on *anything* are fine there.....well maybe not sex with minors >...but you know, politics all that , is all fine. sdf > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of >BJ Feddish >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:52 PM >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: VW FOX - Been driving one since Feb. but have not seen one >other than mine. Why? > > >> Do you suppose that most VW Foxes went to the junkyard prematurely? I >mean people ,ect didnt know to buckle the shoulder belt? Just wondering why >I never see another Fox.Rust? << > >Search the archives on my rant about the Fox. Had VW pushed this car, which >came out at the same time as the Hyndai for only $1K more, and advertised it >they could have sold a bundle. Instead they pushed the Jettas on everyone. > >If it's any consolation I see allot more Foxes than I do Vanagons here in >SE, PA. Especially the little wagons. My last Vanagon sighting was a few >weeks ago. > >Bryan
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