

| Subject: | Re: Some Comments on GPS Systems and Audio Electronics (Not Short) |
| From: | John C... |
| Date: | Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:14:32 +0000 |
>Then there was >the near collision with the beer truck near the Hofbrau House in Munich. UUMMMM..... May Turn Out Better Than One Might Anticipate !!!???!!! :o)... ;o)... ;oO... ;o(... ;o~ JC... -------------- Original message -------------- From: Frank Grunthaner <FrankGRUN@AOL.COM> > Well, basically I'm frugal and sneaky when it comes to investments in the > Westfalia. After all, the family bank account is closely scrutinized by She Who > Must Be Obeyed. > > Nonetheless after several navel introspection's, I have come to convince > myself that there are at least two critical accessories to maintain the quality > of > life as I have come to know it. The first of these is a thumping, brilliant > and diverse sound system and the second of these is a GPS system. > > For years, I have traveled the civilized world in rental cars using the Hertz > Neverlost nav system. This included the massive first and second generation > trunk mount Magellan systems and continues to the current 800/900 derived > portable system. At first, I looked at the early generation systems and was > stunned > to find refurbished and hard used systems going for $1200. So I purchased > (eventually) a DeLorme Earthmate Bluetooth system , used the Bluetooth to > interface it with my Mac Powerbook (then G3) laptop, purchased the early beta > version > of Route 66 GPS software with maps for Europe and North America. Worked fine, > but for two minor problems. The sun glare on the laptop screen and the detail > in the Route 66 maps sent me on many an unanticipated tour. Then there was > the near collision with the beer truck near the Hofbrau House in Munich. And, > secondly, this era of Mac Nav programs did not include the option for voice > prompts and direction. With the Vanagon, the problem was exaggerated by the > tendency of the laptop to launch upon braking and acceleration, not to mention > turns. I experimented with mounts, but the best put the laptop too far away to > read > (bad eyes!). > > So I have watched with drool as the prices of GPS systems dropped - at first > slowly, then more rapidly until many worthy units got to the $400 retail > level. During this window, our primary family transportation went from a Ford > Expedition to an Audi A4 CVT (love that transmission) to the current BMW 330i. > The > BMW (2005 vintage) is equipped with the Factory Nav system. As the eyes got > worse (cataracts) and the print of unfamiliar roadsigns went away, the BMW nav > system became a treasured member of the family - and SWMBO willingly drove to > more exotic places. So, I determined that it was time to add discursive GPS to > the Westfalia. > > So began the study of available goodies. At first, I examined the single DIN > combo stereo and GPS units that flipped a screen out of the unit to rest at 90 > degrees to the radio GPS combo face. Alas, they broke easily and were too > pricey to slip past the family ruling class. I then looked at the portable units > and proceeded to devour all the reviews both by experts (read in the business > of selling GPS units or magazines or both) and by amateurs. Too quickly I > found that the so-called professional reviews closely followed the factory press > kit and the amateurs offered little factual substance. The user reviews > generally ranged from "unit X is wunnerful, buy it now" to "biggest POS I ever > wasted > my money on, gave it to the dog for teething stress". > > Now at the lab three of my colleagues are the very guys who designed and > built most of the world's satellite GPS transmitters and radios. We had a few > discussions about receivers, decoders, antennas software and maps and I walked > away with a few pointers for experiments to separate the men from the mammals > (to > turn a phrase). So I embarked on a low dollar anecdotal study of GPs portable > units to find something adequate for my needs. Of course my needs are not > your needs etc. etc. > > I decided that the performance of the final unit must be at least as good as > the classic Magellan 800/900 series, but substantially cheaper and better > looking. Finally, my wanderings settled on the Pioneer AVIC-S1. This unit was > designed around 2005/6 and was to be retailed at $1200, discounted to $900. The > unit now is in its next sales generation as the AVIC-S2. The differences are a > more updated Map set and a library of about 5x more points of interest. > > The unit is available as a refurbed unit out of ebay and several internet > retailers for $199 with free shipping and no tax if you don't live in NY. (Why > would someone want to live in NY when NJ is so close?). OK, so many of the > reviews (users) were bad with specifics. But the tech specs were excellent. > Liked > the look. Comes with dash and windshield mounts, AC and 12 vdc power supplies, > USB cable, DVD software disk, carrying case, internal antenna, internal > battery with a few hour lifetime, AND bluetooth. Now the Bluetooth goodie lets > one > use the AVIC-S1 as a hands free telephone if your cell supports Bluetooth. Mine > does, I like it. Holds its one phone directory, etc, etc. Good. > > So I got one. Looks good. Uses NavTeq map database in the US. Has a 2005 > version MAP. Pioneer says 2007 Map upgrade by end of summer. They probably lie. > But it so happens that the BMX was delivered with the identical 2005 map > database. By nefarious means, I also have Navteq DVD's of their 2006 and 2007 > updates > and am currently running 2007.2 in the BMW. Now, it turns out that I can > report that in my travels with the BMW across the lands west of the Rockies, I > have found no difference in the Maps (2005 vs. 2007). I tend not to examine the > Points of Interest feature because I never found anything I needed save a gas > station anyway. My primary test case is the campus of UC Santa Cruz. Isn't > there! > > So I proceeded to test, twixt Death Valley and San Diego, Malibu to Palm > Springs, the attributes of the AVIC-S1. Including the specific negatives raised > by previous reviewers. Bogus. Turns out that they were just ignorant or tried > to use it in the tried and true Mac Fashion (Manual, who needs it!). It fact > the thing performed superbly. According to my GPS friends, resolution is a > biggie. Lots of access roads parallel to freeways in this part of the world. > Factory BM W messed up a few. The Pioneer got em dead on. The second issue is a > combo of software algorithms and microprocessor power. Namely, if you miss a > turn, > how quickly can the Nav system give you a calculated detour to get you back > on track. Here the BMW is worth a few blocks at LA street speeds along with a > few softly uttered expletives. The Pioneer, over the same course, was like a > damn machine gun. Spits out a new route for every street passed. Impressive! > Finally, does it get lost in concrete canyons of high rise buildings. Answer in > downtown LA --- BMW lost lock several times, but the dash mounted Pioneer > never skipped a beat. > > OK, the point of this ramble is that I think the Pioneer AVIC-S1 > (refurbished) is a steal at $199 shipped. I bought the 3 year warranty (only > comes with 90 > days) for $20 additional. > > Now for those not yet sleeping, a paragraph on sound. As described in the > archives, I have a substantial sound system in the Westfalia including BA > speakers(8) headphone jacks aplenty, power amplifiers for all speakers and a > powerful > subwoofer system mounted under the driver's derriere. It includes cassette > (!) capability, a CD changer and auxiliary inputs. But times have changed. In > the BMW I listen to CDs (rarely) Sirius radio and my iPod all through the BMW > sound system. Well, out with the current head unit, and out with the CD changer. > I have now added a JVC KD-HDR1 head unit that include the traditional AM and > FM tuners along with a CD player. BUT it also includes a full HD radio tuner > for AMHD and FMHD. It also has an optional Ipod interface that is controlled by > the head unit or the remote control, displays selections on the head unit > while charging the ipod. The JVC head also has an optional Sirius radio tuner > that is controlled through the head unit. The line-outs are controlled through a > built-in graphic equalizer. The refurbed KD-HDR1 head is $115 plus shipping. > The ipod adapter KS-PD100 is $25 plus and the Sirius tuner SIR-JVC1 kit is $70. > So for $210 plus shipping one gets the current collage of broadcast, > satellite and custom music sources. So I blew $460 and change for a complete > modernization of the electronic care package! > > Hope somebody gets something out of this missive, > > Frank Grunthaner > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of > the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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