Good Point Ken - I'll see if I can't get the guys name from Joe. Now that I
think about it I think he had posted the van on Ebay and this guy contacted
him asking to buy the van out right - so it may not have been an actual EBay
purchase. Either way the guy swindled him. I'll get that name.

On 8/9/07, Van-Again <Van-Again> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> what is this guy's name or ebay username?  Sounds like someone that the
> list should know about so that he can be avoided like the plague.  That
> is one of the benefits of the online world.  People can exist like this
> but if you have the information out there, it helps discourage this type
> of behaviour.
>
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
> Jeff Lincoln wrote:
>
> >My Ex's father ran into a guy sort of like this. He had sold a Syncro on
> >Ebay for cheap ($2000) it was in great shape (I scolded him severely for
> >selling it so cheap). Sold it to a guy who uses them for base camps for a
> >white water rafting outfit. He even delivered the van to the guy from
> >Michigan to Virginia. All appear well until sometime later he received
> >lawsuit papers in the mail. The guy had taken pictures of the bad spots
> >on his other various Syncro's (those that were the same color) and
> calimed
> >they were the one from this EBay purchase. Long story short Ex's dad lost
> >settlement and ended up having to pay this guy - and didn't get the van
> >back. The guy called him afterward and came right out and admitted he had
> >screwed him - said he does it all the time.
> >
> >I know this lacks in details because I really don't remember exactly how
> it
> >went but you get the idea. Sounds like he is cut from the same cloth as
> the
> >guy mentioned below.
> >
> >
> >On 8/8/07, mordo <helmut.blong@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Wow. DId this client once live in Connecticut? I'm sure I've done
> business
> >>with him. Sad but true - I've met a few like this. They have more money
> >>thatn they could ever hope to spend or give away but they delight in
> >>screwing whomever they can. Weird.
> >>
> >>ciao,
> >>
> >>---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>From: Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net>
> >>Date: Aug 8, 2007 11:46 AM
> >>Subject: Honest mechanics, etc.  NVC
> >>To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> >>
> >>Asking for partial payment up front as a mechanic:  Probably a bit
> >>strange,
> >>unless you live somewhere where there is no lien law.  After all, you do
> >>have the vehicle as security.  Or if a large expenditure is anticipated
> >>for
> >>a major component that must be obtained before work can begin..crate
> >>motor,
> >>etc.
> >>The signed contract-thing..that is the most odious part of a job, for
> me.
> >>I love working, building something really right and pleasing the
> customer,
> >>surprising them by the quality and speed, etc etc.  I hate dealing with
> >>bids, estimates, payment schedules, permits, licenses, bonds..on and
> >>on...But..the integrity of some of my customers finally taught me that
> >>having everything pre-discussed, agreed upon and if the work is more
> than
> >>I
> >>can stand to give away..I try to get a contract in writing.
> >>Even that sometimes is not enough for some bad customers.
> >>I had a custom home customer who's house I did for "X-dollars per square
> >>foot"..Signed a contract, we did the work, he was happy until time for
> the
> >>final payment.  He then said.."I am not paying.  See my lawyer"  Huh?  I
> >>asked what was wrong, he said "Nothing.  Love the house, but it is just
> >>business"  Huh?
> >>He explained that he didn't get wealthy without playing all the angles,
> >>without being a 'good businessman'. He said it was good business
> practice
> >>that he made everyone sue for their final payments, saying he usually
> came
> >>out ahead because most people didn't want to spend the money getting an
> >>attorney to collect, so they settled for a lesser sum!  Dickwad!  Of
> >>course,
> >>he was right, I did settle for less than was due because I had to pay
> off
> >>my
> >>men, the subs and the lumberyard, etc. and I didn't want to get into a
> >>court
> >>battle because I was on to the next house...
> >>But...he sold that house the next  year for a tidy profit and was
> wanting
> >>to build another one...Except when he put the plans out for bid, nobody
> >>would touch it!   Word was out about this particular  slime ball... He
> >>then
> >>moved on from Jackson Hole to Bozeman, Mt....where he found another
> >>contractor to screw, I am sure..
> >>Luckily, that  was the worst..but I have had other 'sharpies' try to
> >>weasle a bit of extra..on the "Just Business" excuse...
> >>Sorry for the off topic..
> >>Don Hanson
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>mordo
> >>1990 Carat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jeff
> >90' Carat (Grover)
> >86' (We call this one Parts)
> >85' GL (Preparing for reanimation)
> >
> >
> >
>
>

--
Thanks,

Jeff
90' Carat (Grover)
86' (We call this one Parts)
85' GL (Preparing for reanimation)