

| Subject: | Re: Crappy traction Van.. |
| From: | Tom Buese |
| Date: | Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:16:47 -0600 |
On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:22 AM, David Kao wrote: > Andrew, you may be not familiar with Costco. Its tire department > will not sell > tires not meeting the requirement to Vanagon owners. The Kirkland brand from Costco are usually very good quality products made by a name manufacturer w/ the Costco brand(Kirkland). I have the Michelin LTX M & S's on my westy w/ 48k on them w/ little wear, & have them rotated/balanced/properly torqued, regularly as part of the original purchase price at Costco while shopping inside. > They used to have one model > specifically stocked for Vanagons. > That's when I got the tires. It has the correct > load index with reinforced sidewall. They have proven to be very > durable tires. > I often used my Westy as a truck carrying 500+ kg of load (drums of > liquid) roaming > on local freeways. The only problem with these tires is that they > are more likely to > skid when braking hard. > > Costco's technicians don't really know the requirement for > Vanagons. But somehow > the sale person at the front desk knows to say no to me these days. > They simply > do not have the right tires for Vanagons any more. I have the 195's x 14 & Costco sold those to moi after I printed/.showed the tire guy the Vanagon.com page showing acceptable tire sizes for a vanagon. Costco will special order the Michelin Agillis for your Vanagon, among other appropriate tires. > ........... YMMV, Tom B.-why do I keep getting sucked into these tire threads? >>> A couple of year back I put on a new set of tires purchased from >>> Costco for my >>> Westy. As soon as the first time I pulled the brake a little hard >>> the Westy >>> was like skiing on the freeway. I immediately realized that it was >>> the new tires >>> that made it skid. Even today the Westy is still more likely to skid >>> than my 84 >>> is. It has something to do with the tires. It's a set of Kirkland >>> brand tires. >>> The tire's spec met the requirement for Vanagons. >>> >>> I believe you will find your Van's traction different if you have >>> a different >>> set of tires on it. >> >> As I keep saying, the wrong choice of tires can KILL you. What works >> well on one model may be a disaster on another. Some (read no-names >> like the above) are there merely to keep the wheels from scraping on >> the road. Worst-case: Try a set of crossplies on a Split without >> swaybar, like my 57 panel... the rears have almost zero traction on >> dry pavement. Specifications be damned; "good enough" ain't good >> enough! Junk tires might work OK most of the time... but it's just >> when you need grip the most that they'll let you down, and then it'll >> be too late for regrets. >> >> That cow which just ran out of the scrub beside the road... the >> bugger who just ran the red light across your bow... hell, not enough >> grip to slow down in time, or to swerve, much less both... BANG, >> you're DEAD. >> >> This is why you don't fit Barums or Nyetskids to a 911. >> >>> 84. When the tires are near the end of their service life the >>> traction >>> will turn worse too. >> >> Nope, traction increases with wear. That's why racers use slicks; >> maximum contact area; where there's a treadgap, there's no grip. In >> the wet however it's the reverse, slick tires are more likely to >> aquaplane. >> >>> All tires are not created equal. Proper tires for >> >> Dead right. Put the best tires you can ALMOST afford on. Don't go for >> LTs, get quality car tires with the right load rating (yes, they sure >> do exist). For topheavy campers the problem is more tricky... >> >> And always remember to bed new tires in carefully for a couple of >> hundred km... they have a slippery release agent to allow easy >> demolding. Ask motorcyclists about this... >> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
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