>Okay, how many people on this list only drive their van with 6-7 people in
>it?  I've met a fair number who regularly travel with two, a few who
>regularly travel with four. Never met anyone traveling with 6 or 7, not even
>Greg Potts who might have a record on filling a van with teen-agers to take
>them to campouts!  A lot of families show up at camp-outs with more than one
>van, too.  So even if they could travel with four, in fact they don't.

I did a few trips in my Caravelle before the trans failed... in fact
it failed on one of these trips. Up to about 7 people.

Took 8 people in our narrow-bodied Esttima (=Previa) diesel, about
3000km in 5 days. With (excessive amounts of) luggage for all. Try
that in any so-called "minivan" wagon.

Carried 16 adults once in a 30hp 62 Split with no back seats...
fortunately only a few km, but up some steep hills.
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
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