

| Subject: | Re: An engine transplant: ? (subie alterntaive) long post. |
| From: | neil N |
| Date: | Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:54:32 -0700 |
I agree. This has been pointed out before, but more problems than success stories tend to be posted on conversion (and other) email lists. And a SC on a 1.8? Wow! My gut feeling is that it might take "life" out of the engine prematurely. Just my tres "shady tree" mechanical .02 :) Cheers, Neil. -- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: musomuso1963@hotmail.com On 9/8/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: > Fill your boots Don. > > There are as many different Subie transplant outcomes as there are > transplanters. Lots of those guys have very little hot-rodding experience > and their results are about what you would expect. > > There are also many successful and seamless conversions done that have > become reliable and powerful daily drivers. > > I was going to send you a link to the Twin turbo Audi V8 with 6 speed > Tiptronic page but it seems to be down........ > > http://www.schornis.com/T3%20V8%204,2.htm > > Dream on! :) > > > > On 9/8/07, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote: > > > > I like messing around with my vehicles to make em work better for me. > > > > While I am pretty happy with my current 84 partial camper and it's > > transplanted 92 Cabriolet inline 4 motor, I keep looking. I've been > > lurking > > on the Subaru Yahoo list, toying with the idea of maybe doing a transplant > > project sometime. But the more I read over there, the less I like the way > > many of those projects seem to progress. Yes, when they are done and all > > the glitches are worked through, their owners are almost 'evangelistic' > > about their praise for their new motors. But, there seems to be an > > uncounted number of potential quagmires to fall into, judging from the > > posts > > over there. > > > > That conversion (in any of it's possible permutations) does not often seem > > to be anywhere near "plug-n-play", even when done by reputable specialty > > shops..There are waaay too many posts about "how do you make a diagnostic > > reader work on...." "What is the reason I get fault code_____?" "How do > > you > > defeat the_____" Where do you run the _____, on the EJ-xx motor, if you > > happen to have the other_____?" stuff like that. Or stories of in and out > > a > > bunch of times with the motor, or of cross country trips by flatbed, back > > to the shop to diagnose an odd-ball electrical glitch...Not very inviting > > to > > me, once I read a month of posts more carefully.. > > Then, a week ago, someone posted a website for a shop that does 1.8l > > Turbo VW motor transplants into vanagons..for substantial money, but about > > the $ame as a complete Subie conversion would probably run you. So I > > started looking at those...~150 dependable HP from that motor, well proven > > as dependable and available cheap.."Hmmm," thinks I.. > > I also have some buddies who've had very good luck supercharging their > > Porsche waterpumper V8s . Recently, at a dyno day, I saw a VW Rabbit with > > a > > SC pulling 340Hp once...So I found this site below, with a full SC kit for > > my Digifant II motor that I already have..Perhaps this is another way to > > 'upgrade' the power of a Vanagon. Same basic motor as the VW 1.8L turbo. > > But with the twin screw SC, no need to change much in the EMS, no turbo > > lag, > > about the same power output and just $3100, according to the website > > below. > > Superchargers have been used successfully for a long time...since the > > '30s..And the 1.8 liter block and head can take the stress, since they go > > a > > couple of hundred thou with a turbo at 150hp..Not much more complex than > > adding an air conditioning system..compressor, belts, ducting, maybe a > > wastegate, maybe a knock sensor system..etc etc.. > > It would be nice to have the ability to take advantage of a break in > > oncoming traffic to pass slow vehicles, without having to wait for the > > break > > to coincide with a downhill...It would be nice to go uphill at altitude > > with > > authority, or to have the capacity to tow a small trailer or to not worry > > about stacking too many toys on the roof.. > > Just an idea..Ok you nay sayers..have at it.. > > > > > > http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/BBM_Supercharger_Kits/BBM_Supercharger_Kit__Lysholm__MkII_1_8L_Digifant_II.html > > > > Don Hanson > > > > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > www.crescentbeachguitar.com >
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