

| Subject: | Re: Causes of rear brake soft pedal |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Shazam |
| Date: | Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:00:38 -0700 |
If the wheel cylinder pistons move out on there own, that indicates air in the system to me. Which also would explain a mushy pedal. If you work on 'any' brake, even just one rear, I would as a minimum also bleed that brake. Brake fluid should be changed every two years. It's seldom done. The very minimum to me, is bleed any brake you work on. For example, I would never in a million years put in new front brake pads without bleeding the front brakes. Same for the rear, if you went in there to inspect - I usually empty out the dust, and often tweak up the self-adjusters a few clicks. The self-adjusters only keep them to about maybe 90 % adjusted, I can get them closer than that without dragging. Don't overdo it though- things expand with heat. Then after I put the drum back on, I bleed that brake, always, just about. If you intend to work on your own vanagon, including brakes, you should be able to bleed the brakes as handily and easily as you'd change a tire, like no big deal. There are tricks I use, nothing complicated, and equipment.......a clear bottle with a clear hose, nothing fancy at all. But there are tricks to getting it right, bleeding by one person by themselves. I'll post those if anyone asks. There are 4 brake bleeding methods I can think of off the top of my head. I use just the first two, and mainly only one simple 'by yourself' brake bleeding method, and I get really firm pedals. Use Dot 4 brake fluid. If your cheap, use Dot 3, but it's hardly worth it. Do not use silicone brake fluid. Traditional brake fluid is just fine. Scott www.turbovans.com -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Wright Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:26 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Causes of rear brake soft pedal Tonight I replaced the rear shoes on my '88 Westy, which were last done by the dealer about 100k km (60k miles), but more than 10 years ago. I have receipts from the PO showing all new drums, cylinders, shoes, etc were used. The rear wheel cylinders show a fair bit of corrosion, but no weeping under the seals, and they do seem to have the springs to prevent creeping, as they extended slowly on their own when shoes were removed. With everything all back together, I still have the soft pedal syndrome, where one or more pumps is required to get a firm pedal. I was hoping this was the rear wheel cylinders lacking those elusive springs. Front pads and calipers are new in the spring. So the problem must lie in the booster or the master cylinder, right? Tips on narrowing this down appreciated. Thanks. Shawn Wright http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
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