On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Mike wrote:

> I just bought 2 Michelin Agilis 81's for my original '87 Westy from
> TireRack.  I love 'em!
>  Michelin needs to get their head together, regarding giving
> erronoeous
> info to customers regarding their own products.  Several tire
> dealers I
> spoke to said that these were no longer available, also.  But one I
> spoke to
> said that they were available.

I wonder if Michelin has stopped producing the Agilis & so the only
ones that are available are those that dealers had in stock?

Tom B.-I wanna order a set, but don't want to get stuck not having
any replacements if I have a tire failure
>
> YMMV.....
>
> Mike B.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires
>
>
>> I think the model 61 is gone and 81 is what they still make.
>>
>> Tirerack shows Agilis in 14 and 15 in stock.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> John Rodgers wrote:
>>> I haven't checked, but they may well be out of stock - for a 14 inch
>>> rim. I would check and see if they were available in a larger rim
>>> size.
>>> I'll bet they are. Of course that doesn't do you any good if you
>>> have 14
>>> in. rims, however. But this gets back to the same old song - you
>>> have
>>> better and more options with 15 and 16 inch rims than with the
>>> stock 14
>>> inch rims. This is what has motivated many  list members to upgrade
>>> their rims.  Related to the larger rim upgrade, upgrading to the
>>> bigger
>>> diameter rims also allows for upgrading to the big brake kits.
>>> Plus, you
>>> can replace your rear shoe type brakes with disc brakes so you
>>> will have
>>> disc brake action on all four wheels. Much better braking actions, I
>>> would say.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>
>>> John Lauterbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> I called Michelin customer service last week and told the
>>>> representative that my '84 VW Vanagon needed a new set of Agilis
>>>> 61s
>>>> in 185R14C.  He told me that Michelin could not provide me with
>>>> tires
>>>> for my van as tires were out-of-stock and no longer made.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers"
>>>> <inua@CHARTER.NET>
>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:48 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Frank,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's bogus! It's a marketing ploy by Costco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gases - nitrogen or otherwise - all follow the "Ideal Gas Law".
>>>>> This
>>>>> law
>>>>> - oft stated in chemistry and physics - is comprised of three
>>>>> other
>>>>> laws
>>>>> - Boyles Law, Charles Law, and Gay-Lussac's Law.  A fairly
>>>>> comprehensive
>>>>> and easy to read summary of these laws is found in Wikipaedia. The
>>>>> inside volume of the tire remains constant, so as temperature
>>>>> changes,
>>>>> whether from the weather or from rolling friction on the road, the
>>>>> pressure will change. The case for nitrogen being used in the
>>>>> Agilis
>>>>> tire is that it is a very dry gas - no entrained moisture - and
>>>>> being a
>>>>> relatively inert gas, it reduces the tendency of the tire to rot.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I'm soon to need new tires, and the Agilis is my choice
>>>>> for the
>>>>> next set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> John Rodgers
>>>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank Condelli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 20/09/2007 6:15:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> WHalsey@sya.org writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why  nitrogen? I have never heard of that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because that's what COSTCO is doing.  The  pamphlet I got from
>>>>>> COSTCO says:
>>>>>> Nitrogen helps stabilize a tire's  inflation pressure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank  Condelli
>>>>>> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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>>>>>> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html)
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>