

| Subject: | Re: Michelin Agilis Tires |
| From: | Max Wellhouse |
| Date: | Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:27:11 -0500 |
I've got a brand new spare(well, it's got road splash on it) I'd be willing to sell to someone in need. DM&FS At 03:41 PM 9/20/2007, Tom Buese wrote: >On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Mike wrote: > >>I just bought 2 Michelin Agilis 81's for my original '87 Westy from >>TireRack. I love 'em! >> Michelin needs to get their head together, regarding giving >>erronoeous >>info to customers regarding their own products. Several tire >>dealers I >>spoke to said that these were no longer available, also. But one I >>spoke to >>said that they were available. > >I wonder if Michelin has stopped producing the Agilis & so the only >ones that are available are those that dealers had in stock? > >Tom B.-I wanna order a set, but don't want to get stuck not having >any replacements if I have a tire failure >> >>YMMV..... >> >>Mike B. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mark Drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET> >>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:35 AM >>Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires >> >> >>>I think the model 61 is gone and 81 is what they still make. >>> >>>Tirerack shows Agilis in 14 and 15 in stock. >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>John Rodgers wrote: >>>>I haven't checked, but they may well be out of stock - for a 14 inch >>>>rim. I would check and see if they were available in a larger rim >>>>size. >>>>I'll bet they are. Of course that doesn't do you any good if you >>>>have 14 >>>>in. rims, however. But this gets back to the same old song - you >>>>have >>>>better and more options with 15 and 16 inch rims than with the >>>>stock 14 >>>>inch rims. This is what has motivated many list members to upgrade >>>>their rims. Related to the larger rim upgrade, upgrading to the >>>>bigger >>>>diameter rims also allows for upgrading to the big brake kits. >>>>Plus, you >>>>can replace your rear shoe type brakes with disc brakes so you >>>>will have >>>>disc brake action on all four wheels. Much better braking actions, I >>>>would say. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>>John Rodgers >>>>88 GL Driver >>>> >>>>John Lauterbach wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi John, >>>>> >>>>>I called Michelin customer service last week and told the >>>>>representative that my '84 VW Vanagon needed a new set of Agilis >>>>>61s >>>>>in 185R14C. He told me that Michelin could not provide me with >>>>>tires >>>>>for my van as tires were out-of-stock and no longer made. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" >>>>><inua@CHARTER.NET> >>>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:48 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Frank, >>>>>> >>>>>>That's bogus! It's a marketing ploy by Costco. >>>>>> >>>>>>Gases - nitrogen or otherwise - all follow the "Ideal Gas Law". >>>>>>This >>>>>>law >>>>>>- oft stated in chemistry and physics - is comprised of three >>>>>>other >>>>>>laws >>>>>>- Boyles Law, Charles Law, and Gay-Lussac's Law. A fairly >>>>>>comprehensive >>>>>>and easy to read summary of these laws is found in Wikipaedia. The >>>>>>inside volume of the tire remains constant, so as temperature >>>>>>changes, >>>>>>whether from the weather or from rolling friction on the road, the >>>>>>pressure will change. The case for nitrogen being used in the >>>>>>Agilis >>>>>>tire is that it is a very dry gas - no entrained moisture - and >>>>>>being a >>>>>>relatively inert gas, it reduces the tendency of the tire to rot. >>>>>> >>>>>>BTW, I'm soon to need new tires, and the Agilis is my choice >>>>>>for the >>>>>>next set. >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>>John Rodgers >>>>>>88 GL Driver >>>>>> >>>>>>Frank Condelli wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>In a message dated 20/09/2007 6:15:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>>>>>WHalsey@sya.org writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why nitrogen? I have never heard of that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Because that's what COSTCO is doing. The pamphlet I got from >>>>>>>COSTCO says: >>>>>>>Nitrogen helps stabilize a tire's inflation pressure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Frank Condelli >>>>>>>Almonte, Ontario, Canada >>>>>>>'87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_ >>>>>>>(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/trainsal.htm) ) >>>>>>>_Frank Condelli & Associates_ >>>>>>>(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html) >>>>>>>- Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley >>>>>>>_Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems_ >>>>>>>(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm) >>>>>>>_BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm) a >>>>>>>VW Camper >>>>>>>camping event, Almonte, ON, June 07 ~ 10, 2007 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
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