Scott,

I have the problem, my system is fully bled, rears are adjusted perfectly (handbrake full
lockup within 2 clicks), so what else could it be? Not trying to argue, just looking for a
solution to this very common problem. It seems most people just live with it. (as I have for 11
years).

On 20 Sep 2007 at 22:20, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> Oh you guys, that's not what determines how far the pistons recede.
> See my other post.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Shawn Wright
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:42 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Wheel cylinders with springs?
>
> Thanks Dennis. I will be looking out for ATE then. I figure it'll be another 10
> years before I look at these again, so I might as well get the good ones. (yes,
> I do flush every 2 years, which is probably why they're still not leaking - I
> checked, and these ones were put on in 1993! I figure that's a good enough life
> for a $15 part...)
>
> On 20 Sep 2007 at 22:18, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I did write that many moons ago.
> > Originally, the Vanagons did have springs inside the rear cylinders to
> > push the pistons out. Golf/Jettas, etc also had them. ATE is the only
> > supplier I know that is still installing them. If you go to the dealer,
> > they will give you Brazilian cylinders without them.
> >
> > During heat/cool cycles or the shoe moving around the pistons can recede
> > or get sucked back in. The springs keep the pistons tight against the
> > shoes. This avoids the sometime required double pump to get a firm pedal.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> > Shawn Wright Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:14 PM To:
> > vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Wheel cylinders with springs?
> >
> > I thought I had filed a message a while back from Dennis Haynes
> > mentioning which brands of rear wheel cylinders come with the oem springs to
> > prevent them from receding and causing a soft pedal. I can't find it...
> >
> > Anyone recall which brands to watch for, and who carries them?
> >
> > Mine are not leaking, but look pretty rough, so I'd like to get the good
> > ones in
> > there.
> >
> > Thx
> >
> >
> > Shawn Wright
> > http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels
> > '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
> > '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
>
>
> Shawn Wright
> http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels
> '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
> '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
>

Shawn Wright
http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels
'88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
'85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA