Maybe you haven't actually driven a van with a 1.8T (1.8 TURBO, ya know
what it IS, right? 180 hp stock). Double the HP and torque of the
waterboxer. Gotta drive before you make such a statement as your last.

I've driven Donner pass in a snowstorm, passing people in SUV's,
laughing at them!

Karl
TDI Syncro Westy :-)

Jeff Clayman wrote:
> I have a Stuart Mk I I want to pull with it.  1.8 can't pull squat at 70
> mph down the highway and over passes.  Maybe if you're okay going 35 mph
> up Donner pass in the breakdown lane. With flashers on. With everybody
> laughing at you.