a la Johnny Carsons side kick Ed:

"Iiiiii did not know that! "

Cool. I would never have thought of that. If I go with the I4, I may
do the Saab rubber mount thing. Though from what I've read that
requires modding the aluminum brackets.

Lots to think about!

Thanks!

Neil.

On 9/28/07, Jim Akiba <syncrolist@bostig.com> wrote:
> Also Neil,
>
> If you're trying to save money and make your life easier, remember that it's
> pretty easy to cast your own polyurethane mounts, which also last and
> perform much longer and more predictably than rubber. The materials are not
> expensive, and you can easily play with different hardnesses to tune the
> mounts to your own liking.
>
> Smooth-on sells trial size kits that are more than enough, and a good
> reference on the engine mount scale is Shore A 90 is hard, Shore A 75 is
> soft.
>
> Jim Akiba
>
>
> On 9/28/07, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Robert. I concur.
> >
> > I also understand that one can use Saab rubber mounts. Frank G had
> > done a lot of research on that one. (plus more IIRC)
> >
> > Yup. That is part of my game plan. Save money using parts from donor
> > for 15 degree. Of course I would need to make or have made, the engine
> > support bars.
> >
> > Who knows. A diesel Westy came up locally on CL. I may check it out.
> > It needs a new engine.
> >
> > We'll see......
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> > On 9/28/07, Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >  50 degrees .... likely one of
> > > > the biggest reasons it has significant
> > > > vibration or
> > > > "buzziness".
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > Tiico "buzziness" is not due to the angle the
> > > engine is mounted.
> > >  Some 15 degree Jettas , Golfs, etc have a little
> > > shock absorber between the block and the frame.
> > >
> > > Vibration is an inherent part of the inline-four
> > > engine design.
> > >
> > > The original Tiico kits lacked factory alternator
> > > and AC compressor brackets, and harmonic crank
> > > pulley.
> > >
> > > The use of substandard brackets and pulleys
> > > allowed natural vibrations from the engine to be
> > > transferred.
> > >
> > > The poor quality Tiico alternator bracket was
> > > often misaligned which allowed for the belts to
> > > vibrate. It was nothing more than a metal plate
> > > with pipes welded to it.
> > >
> > > 1.8 VW engines have significant side -to-side rod
> > > motion, hence vibration.
> > > This was solved by introducing the 2.0 liter ABA.
> > > This has longer rods which minimizes side-to side
> > > rod movement.
> > >
> > > Tiico is now selling it's kit with German made
> > > brackets, I'm not sure of the crank pulley.
> > >
> > > The harmonic crank pulley is a heavy cast pulley
> > > with a bonded rubber damper ring sandwiched in.
> > >
> > > I have the ABA engine with all these features and
> > > no vibration.
> > >
> > > The other question I would like to address is the
> > > engine angle. The Diesel or Tiico 51 degree angle
> > > keeps the engine under the lid.
> > >
> > > Using the 15 degree requires raising he engine
> > > lid as the manifold will rise above the access
> > > edge.
> > > The advantage if you aren't concerned with losing
> > > space in the rear is you can use the engine
> > > straight from the donor with fewer adaptations.
> > >
> > > It's also convenient to use the adaptor plate
> > > which is a must for automatic transmissions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > 1982 Westfalia with '95 ABA engine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > "Jaco"  (Bustorius)
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> > musomuso1963@hotmail.com
> >
>
>

--
Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
"Jaco"  (Bustorius)

http://web.mac.com/tubaneil

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