I have a bottle and have done some playing with samples assembly lube and
such
 but too many bad memorys of STP

time will tell
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question

> Bob,
>
> And what are your thoughts on Lucas Oil Stabilizer?  I've been using Elf
> 10W50 4 qts, and 1 qt of Lucas... with great results in my 2.1L.  Mann
> filters of course!
>
> Jack R.
> N. of Detroit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Bob Donalds
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
>
> I went to sleep early
> 20/50 is the right stuff and can be used most of the year here in the
> north
> it s not like the top end of the engine is dry when it starts cold so it
> has
> lubrication
>
> Bob
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jim Akiba
>  To: Bob Donalds
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:53 PM
>  Subject: Fwd: 20W-50 oil question
>
>
>  You're being paged on the vanagon list beep beep beep
>
>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  From: David Kao < dtkao0205@yahoo.com>
>  Date: Oct 4, 2007 12:06 AM
>  Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
>  To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>
>  Bob, what is your opinion about dino oil 20w-50 most Vanagon people
>  believe in and kind of insist in using it? They have of course a good
>  point that the owner's manual suggested it.
>
>  My understanding is the 20W part is bad for the first few miles after a
>  cold start in the morning. That's when the most wear happens to the
> engine.
>  But the number of 50 in 20w-50 is good for the rising coolant temperature
>  when in bumper to bumper traffic. The Vangon's cooling system is unable
>  to keep the coolant at a constant temperature in slow traffic or in
> climbing
>  long hills, unlike my Passat which keeps its coolant temperature at a
>  constant at all conditions. I can see the benefit of the 50 viscosity
>  for vanagons. But 20w part is really bad for cold start and first few
>  miles of driving first thing in the morning.
>
>  What's the solution for this? What's your opinion about this? Or it
> doesn't
>  matter any way? Thanks a lot.
>
>  David
>
>
>
>
>
>
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