Hey that's good news on the Zetec at 7.5 inches.

On Subaru's ....2.2's, 2.5's and SVX , it's at least 11 inches, and up to 12
inches. 

At 11 inches it means the pan will stick down 4.5 inches further than what
you had, in a waterboxer vanagon, of course. 

 

 A deep narrow pan is always desirable, and Subaru seems to believe in that.

I suspect their engine sits perhaps 3 inches higher in the chassis than
would be preferable due to that pan sticking way down, with two horizontal
baffles even, in some of their pans.  That makes me think they put a lot of
effort into ensuring oil and oil pressure is always available. 

I find it interesting that they went to the trouble to make it so when you
had fresh oil, ( there's a tube with an o-ring, etc ) it goes directly to
the bottom of the pan where the oil pick up is, , and not just to the top of
whatever oil is already in there. 

Sorry to go on about soob oil pans - I notice a 99 SOHC 2.5 has a very flat
oil pan bottom ( haven't seen the inside of it yet though ) 

On an early 2.2 the bottom of the pan is very rounded, almost pointy a bit
......

As cars evolve they are always trying to package more engine  into a lower
noise for aerodynamics and styling.... 

Perhaps they squeezed up on the bottom of the pan in the SOHC 2.5's to get
the engine in , and lower ....if the engineers can get an engine one half
inch lower, they probably consider that a mile, in terms of
packaging/performance combo.

Scott

www.turbovans.com <http://www.turbovans.com/>    

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Akiba [mailto:jakiba@bostig.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:57 PM
To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
Subject: Re: Ground clearance on 15 degree I4 install?

 

<pmail>

Excellent info Scott,  I was just measuring the other day, the crank
centerline from an ej22 to the bottom of the pan I have here is 12", can you
confirm this and perhaps an SVX? Or 2.5 measurement? 

The zetec is also 7.5" from crank centerline to the bottom of the pan(stock
pan, not the shortened pan)

Thanks!

Jim

On 10/1/07, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

The distance from the center of the crankshaft to the bottom of a waterboxer
block is 7.5 inches.  ( and the exhaust sticks down a bit below that ) .
I just measured an inline 4 at 15 degrees at 7 inches, center of crank to 
bottom of a jetta type steel oil pan.
That's sure good news !~  by that calculation, no loss of ground clearance.
In 2WD you can fudge the engine up a little too, an inch  without shift
linkage or CV joint problems. 
Scott
www.turbovans.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of 
neil N
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:31 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Ground clearance on 15 degree I4 install?

Hi all.

Does anyone with the 15 degree VW I4 conversion know if there's any 
loss of ground clearance?

If so how much?

I imagine there would be.....

TIA,

Neil.

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"Jaco"  (Bustorius)

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