I blinked and thought it said don't drive Las Vegas at 4am.. hehe
ok ok.. also friday somewhere..

paint that van with army paint, cammy ;-)

be safe and enjoy,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
>From: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
>Sent: Oct 10, 2007 6:09 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Why I don't drive the Baja at 4 in the morning!
>
>I understand Bernie the need to be preventive, but it's like saying you
>should not go to school because maybe you could be shoot by a crazy gun-men.
>
>No one want to know about horror storie's, it create fear and fear is the
>worse enemy of travelers.
>
>My EX girlfriend Carolyn just came back from a 5 months trip to Asia, 6
>countries, backpacking, ALONE (and she is one nice lady)!!! Everything went
>smooth for the exception of a small aggression in the street of a small
>town, she was rob by 1 young guy driving a scooter, he took is purse on the
>"fly"
>
>I'm sure your point was to "point" "NOT TO TRAVEL" at night, but most mexico
>travelers already know that. I had to travel in Baja at nigh, 3 time, no
>choice... i was afraid... of the animals on the road.
>
>But i agree, border town are somewhat scary, you cross, do your paper work
>and drive 500 miles away from there.
>
>Yesterday, i was speaking with one of my customer, remember my post about
>the lady who was stranded with a bad radiator in Mexico last winter??? Well,
>she was telling me all about her 5 years in a row travel into Mexico!
>ALONE!! at 62YO. Just marvelous stories.
>
>In 2003, when i told everyone here i was "going south" (thanks to all here
>for all those nice (over 100) invitation to visit them) many American's try
>to discourage me of going there, why?
>
>Me, i only regret one thing about my "Ultimate Vanagon", it's Tornado Red!
>not the best color to travel incognito.
>
>Fear is the engine of community...
>
>Cheers, Ben
>http://www.benplace.com/baja_intro.htm
>
>On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:40:07 -0700, Bernie <berniej@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> hope your not telling us (or should i say "me") that it's safer in the
>>US??? come on men!!! The USA, where their is more murder per capita then the
>>rest of the world!
>>
>>Not comparing the countries.
>>I'm simply stating why I have  no interest in driving in the Baja in the
>>wee hours of the morning.
>>I have been to the Baja on 7 or 8  occasions and love it.
>>
>>
>>Many people have travel in Mexico for years, they have not much to say about
>>> bandidos!:
>>
>>
>>
>>We travelled down the Baja 25 years ago and then took a ferry from Cabo
>>to mainland Mexico. From there we went north to Durango and the next
>>day drove the road from Durango to Mazatlan. When we got  to Mazatlan
>>the owner of the campground asked us from where we had come.
>>I told him and he said that there was a "travel advisory" on that road.
>>You should not have been on it.
>>The bad guys had dressed up as Federals and stopped tourists.
>>There had been shootings and some killings.
>>All this a day or two before  we travelled that road. It could have easily
>>been us.
>>That's a fact and not a story.
>>I know.........I know this is not the norm.
>>But to  say it can't happen would not be accurate.