Whaoh.

I just got RID of a Honda Element and bought a Eurovan.  I'll tell you what
I did not like about the Element so you have something to consider. The
first thing is the enormous blind spots. The A and B pillars are huge. The A
pillar can hide a car or lady with a shopping cart easily. The B and C
pillars keep you from seeing cars on your left and right. Just Google the
words Honda Element and Blind Spot and you will see what I mean. Next, my
AWD Element got 18MPG in the city, that's less than my '83 Westy.  OK, as
for that AWD system, it's a computer controlled AWD so what happens is you
are at a hill in the rain, you press the gas pedal, the front wheels start
slipping then the rear kicks in and gets the car moving. Pretty annoying.
Not as smooth acceleration as a real AWD or traction control vehicle. Add to
all that those unbelievably annoying suicide doors which will leave you
trapped between 2 doors in a parking lot and you have one undesirable car.

I'm still trying to figure out that useless sunroof at the back of the car
but I guess it's great if you are adding a poptop....

Why did I buy it, it was relatively cheap and I though it would suit my
needs at the time which involves carrying an upright bass and equipment. It
didn't really do that too well either.

Reliable? OK, you got me there.  All I did was change the oil and air filter
while I owned it. Bastards. ;)

Anyway, I love this Eurovan, I would I could have afforded to buy it new in
'03 but they were too expensive being $10K more than the Element at the
time.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Aaron Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:15 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top

has anyone seen one of these live?  sorry if i sound like a heretic, but
that's pretty tempting.

aaron
'87 syncro westy ej22

> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:24:49 -0600
> From: tombuese@COMCAST.NET
> Subject: Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> 
> Where is the kitchen?
> 
> Tom B.-put 1 of those suckers on a regular height Sprinter & now you
> got a new generation camper?
> 
> On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Paul Guzyk wrote:
> 
> >> Boy that pic with the doors open seems very "Honda Element".
> >>
> >
> > How about this Element "Westfalia"
> > http://www.ursaminorvehicles.com/camper.htm

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