

| Subject: | Re: 1.9L itermittent stalling at random |
| From: | craig cowan |
| Date: | Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:38:15 -0500 |
This sounds an AWFUL lot like what i have going on with my '85. I just replaced the fuel filter in hopes that ill solve it....it seems fuel related as my tachometer is unaffected by the car's random shutoffs. I just replaced the O2 wire as well, so it's not that. Temp sensor's new as well. It just randomly dies, but 99% of the time it just fires itsself right back up and keeps on running. Though, on a big hill (that i did not make it up so elegantly at all), it did not turn itsself back on but fired right up at the turn of the key. I would wonder if you guys all have similar problems involving the tachometer not changing when the car shuts off (just there isnt any more power to push the car). I used to have a random problem where the tach would die and spike back up....the car dying for a second or two. This was somehow solved with a new alternator (the old one wasnt putting out juice, the battery was always dead). I'm following this intently hoping to bring a breath of reliable life into my beast. -Craig '85GL On Nov 12, 2007 9:16 PM, Joseph Fortino <fortino1@earthlink.net> wrote: > 85 syndrome.. trust me.. I battled some wild stuff in 119f in Vegas.. > running to hot > could be all kinds of things. I say o2 wire maybe > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Walter Houle <whoule@ECSCONTROLS.COM> > >Sent: Nov 12, 2007 5:03 PM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: 1.9L itermittent stalling at random > > > >Brian - > > > >I have an 85 1.9 w/205K miles and had similar problems. It started with > an > >intermittent miss on the freeway, progressed to a full cut-out at freeway > >speeds, and was really awful with moisture present. Luckily, we live > where > >it rarely rains. I ended up replacing the coil, spark plug wires, cap, > >rotor, plugs, etc. but that didn't do it. I finally noticed the wires for > >the hall sender were rubbed bare where they exited the back of the > >distributor. The rubber grommet had crumbled with age. I bought a new > hall > >sender from Van Cafe and paid a local shop to install it. Problem solved. > >The van ran much better and the mileage even went up from 19 to 21 MPG. > >That was about 3 months ago. So,its worth a look. However please note > that > >on our way home last night, the van experienced one of those intermittent > >misses again....... Not sure if its even related yet. > > > >Walter > > > >On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:19:23 -0800, Brian Jarvinen > ><brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > > > >>well it's that time again. I've been through this > >>before > >>but have to work through it again. the fuel seems to > >>cut out at seemingly random times. > >> > >>I tried to do some archive searches about my questions > >>but on dial-up that is very frustrating. > >> > >>My Westy is an 84 1.9L > >>manufactured 12/83; I also have an extra > >>Vanagon manufactured 11/83 that I've mostly > >>finished parting out and using for spares. > >> > >>but something is cutting off the fuel seemingly > >>at random. first symptoms appeared on rainy > >>days but we've had a lot of those and I don't > >>think an exposed wire getting moist is the > >>culprit because the symptoms started again > >>on a warm sunny day this weekend. > >> > >>Checked so far - > >> > >>all grounds cleaned, di-electric greased, sealed > >>with wire-dryer spray. > >> > >>fuel filter changed. > >> > >>temp-sensor II - about two years old. but > >>van can run perfectly when fully warmed for > >>long periods, then start the herky-jerkys. > >>previous experience with this sensor going > >>bad was much different but I guess still > >>possible. haven't tested it with slowly > >>warming water yet. > >> > >>fuel pump relays - seem solid. have had > >>these cause this problem in the past, detectable > >>when ever hitting a bump in the road. also > >>when the inside of the relay rattles a little bit. > >>swapped one out anyway, no change. > >> > >>fuel pump - pressurizes normally on > >>start up. I never hear it make the re-pressurization > >>sound again after that. but it is the original > >>pump ... 24 years, 250K miles... > >> > >>so question 1 - what are the symptoms > >>of a fuel pump going bad? > >> > >>fuel pressure regulator - I could test this, I > >>have in the past with the little port at the > >>fuel-line T, but testing for this is...what > >>if when I test it, everything is working just > >>exactly perfect? I wouldn't think a regulator > >>problem would be so random. > >> > >>the coil - actually swapped this out for > >>other reasons. an educational experience > >>I will write about in another post, perhaps > >>it will help someone else. no change in symptoms. > >> > >>ahhh, the air sensors - I can test these with > >>the box off, per Bentley, and all tests show > >>correctly. again testing can only reveal > >>so much - sometimes the van runs perfectly > >>for 20 minutes at a time. what if I am > >>testing when the sensor arm is on the right spot? > >> > >>so question 2 - what are the symptoms of > >>these sensors flaking out? > >> > >>I'm leaning towards just replacing the > >>air sensors. unfortunately I already gave away > >>my extra air box I think, can't find my extra > >>one anywhere. but at $150 and several days > >>shipping, I keep hoping I can find something > >>simpler to try next. > >> > > > Kind Regards, > Joseph Fortino > fortino1@earthlink.net > yahoo mobile mail account: love2bike140@yahoo.com > IM: love2bike1414@yahoo.com > > Have a Great Day! >
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