

| Subject: | Re: (Symptoms) No Start, Hesitate at Start |
| From: | Mark Drillock |
| Date: | Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:44:58 -0800 |
You should listen to Jake. The ignition "switch" is actually a multi-switch inside. Just because the starter part of the switch works reliably doesn't mean the ignition part does. It is a very common failure, as is a third switch inside it, the X-contact switch. There are 2 more switches in there as well but they are unimportant for most of us. Mark Blake Heinlein wrote: > Jake, > > The engine turns over continuously and every time I turn the key. The > engine will crank but it will not fire, catch, and continue running. I > don't think there is a problem with the ignition and starter system. > > Thanks, > Blake > > On Nov 13, 2007 2:17 PM, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Maybe you should replace the ignition switch. That random connection >>behaviour fits the failing switch pattern. >> >> >> >>On Nov 13, 2007 1:30 PM, Blake Heinlein < blakeheinlein@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Ken, >>> >>>Well it happened today at lunch again. Drove down the street 1 mile. >>>Stopped to get lunch. Came out after 10 minutes and the van wouldn't >>>start. Looked at everything in the engine compartment. Everything is >>>connected. I can hear the idle position sensor clicking when moving >>>the throttle. After I waited about 30 minutes longer it started and >>>ran fine. I got back to my office (1 mile drive). Stopped the van, >>>turned the key, it started. Turned it off, then turned the key again >>>and it wouldn't start. It definately seems temperature related. In the >>>morning on a cold start it starts perfectly. >>> >>>Any more suggestions ideas? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Blake >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Nov 13, 2007 1:18 PM, Kenneth Lewis < kdlewis@northstate.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Blake, >>>>First check the Idle position sensor. You should be able to hear it >>>>click(engine off) when someone presses, then releases the gas pedal. >>>>Next the TEMPII sensor, just replace it. If it's not bad it soon will >> >>be. >> >>>>Ken Lewis >>>>http://neksiwel.20m.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Blake Heinlein" <blakeheinlein@GMAIL.COM> >>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>>Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:36 PM >>>>Subject: [VANAGON] (Symptoms) No Start, Hesitate at Start >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>>I had a little starting trouble today in my 84 Westy today. After >>>>>driving 3 miles, stopping to have lunch, I tried to start it after >>>>>lunch and the van would crank strong and it was trying to fire but >>>>>wouldn't start. I kept trying every minute or so. After 10 minutes the >>>>>van finally started and ran strong after that with no hesitations or >>>>>stumbling. >>>>> >>>>>The only other problems are when I start the van cold and on the first >>>>>couple of starts from a stop the van will hesitate with normal >>>>>throttle depression. Within a second or two it will catch up and take >>>>>off down the road. This doesn't happen all the time. >>>>> >>>>>Between these two problems there doesn't seem to be any predictable >>>>>patterns for the cause of the problems. A couple people recommended >>>>>this sounds like a mass air flow meter problem. Anyone have >>>>>experiences with these types of problems? Any pointers on how to >>>>>diagnose and/or reasoning. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks! >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Blake Heinlein >>>>>http://blakeheinlein.googlepages.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>-- >>Jake >>1984 Vanagon GL >>1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >>www.crescentbeachguitar.com >>http://subyjake.googlepages.com/ > > > > > -- > Blake Heinlein > http://blakeheinlein.googlepages.com/ >
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