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Subject:Re: Girling vs ATE Calipers
From:Mark Drillock
Date:Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:58:31 -0800

A great conversion is to the 86+ front brakes, assuming you can find a
donor with all the parts for cheap. This makes a huge improvement. I
have done this several times to 82/83 models.

Mark

Jonce Fancher wrote:

> Hi Thanks thats the sorta stuff I needed
> Also Ive got a 85 Westi and a 84 7 passenger so IM in the 80-85 crowd.
> Thank again. I will see if ive got an issue with the caliper or just do a front conversion to the Audi stuff shown on syncro pages.
> C-ya Jonce
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>>You did not say what year you have.
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>>If you have the 80-85 with front pads held by long pins, look and see if
>>the pins have tiny cotter pins on one end. If so, those are the rarer
>>Girling. If not, they are the more common ATE.
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>>On the very different 86-91 calipers, it would be more rare for them to
>>be ATE but there are some. Most are Girling. These years have floating
>>front calipers and the main visual difference in the caliper pins. The
>>pins are hidden in the Girling and exposed on the ATE. Also the Girlings
>>are held to the hidden pins with exposed 13mm head bolts. The ATE are
>>held to exposed pins with Allen head bolts hidden in a rubber sleeve.
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>>Both types of 80-85 take the same square pads.
>>Both types of 86-91 take the same more irregular shaped pads.
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>>Mark
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