And you learned a few things along the way.   :)

On Nov 14, 2007 5:26 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yah could be the damage is done. Really hard to know. This engine is a
> bonus so to speak. I bought the van for other parts. I know I'll get
> my value out of it. I figured I'd get the engine running and pass it
> along, but it could be the potential for an internal part failing
> prematurely is high. Oh well. All it "cost" me was an oil filter and
> oil.... and my time! ---:^)
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On 11/14/07, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
> >  Gas-diluted oil will 'wipe out' the bearings very quickly.  Cylinders/
> > rings are probably also scored due to lack of lube.  The damage is
> probably
> > already done. Now it's likely to be overhaul time due to persistent,
> > continued attempts to 'just get it running'...........
> >   I wouldn't trust this engine to carry me around the block, without a
> good
> > look inside.  Using a more thorough approach can prevent this kind of
> > un-needed expense; hindsight is 20-20. But, you can't undo the PO's
> wrongs;
> > only start over, by doing all the right things from here on out.
> >
> > Mike B.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:04 PM
> > Subject: Now: Thanks! (+ Report. Long.) Was: Leaky ... fuel injector?
> (and
> > fuel press. regulator)
> >
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > First off, many thanks to all for the ideas/suggestions regarding
> > > getting the engine in my parts Vanagon to run. It runs now, though I'm
> > > not totally sure of it's condition.
> > >
> > > For the benefit of the curious and other newbies here's what happened.
> > >
> > > The PO unknowingly ran engine, or started it many times, until the
> > > crankcase was FULL of gas/oil. Turns out the engine had a faulty fuel
> > > pressure regulator (broken diaphram). I took it off and found I could
> > > blow air into the small opening (NON fuel side of diaphram) through to
> > > the fuel side. A bad thing. As such, when running, being started, or
> > > just sitting overnight, fuel would go past the diaphram and into crank
> > > case via a small tube that connects to the air intake distributor.
> > > That was most of the problem.
> > >
> > > Solution.
> > >
> > > Drained the gas/oil out of engine, replaced the FPR, squirted oil in
> > > each cylinder, turned the engine by hand with new oil in it (filter
> > > too) until it turned easily. Spun it with the starter quite a few
> > > times, cleaned the plugs, double checked everything and fired it up.
> > > It started right away! But was smokey as hell and stalled. I figured
> > > it was burning off the oil I had squirted in so tried a few more
> > > times. It still burned blue-ish, but I thought there was more to it. I
> > > checked the plugs. They had gotten black. Too rich. The distributor
> > > was loose too. So I timed it statically. Eventually got that close
> > > enough. I also did a visual check on the FI's. On one cylinder, the
> > > injector looked like it had a melted tip. It was slightly shorter than
> > > the other beside it. I replaced the pair on that side. It ran better.
> > > Then I realized (Duh. I'm so "old school") that I needed the air
> > > filter housing on!! Need that air sensor connected! Put that on, it
> > > ran WAY better. This explained the fouling plugs.
> > >
> > > It seems to have good power. It revs up great. The blue smoke cleared
> > > up, ( I assume it was smoke resulting from a rich mixture due to a
> > > lack of the air sensor and possibly due to a bunged FI) but then it
> > > *seemed* to be blowing some white smoke. Actually more totally moist
> > > exhaust than white like a blown head gasket. Anyhow...... It was too
> > > much smoke overall and I figured I'd given the neighbours enough for
> > > the day, so I shut er' down.
> > >
> > > The engine has a light clattering noise which I think is lifters, but
> > > I have no idea what happened to the engine when it stopped running.
> > > But right now it revs up great and idles well. (given that the timing
> > > is likely off a bit)
> > >
> > > Too bad. I'm suspect of the white smoke. I think this engine is core
> > > material. Good news is that I know an air cooled starter will work in
> > > a WBX tranny, and that the ECU etc. is likely fine. Maybe someone can
> > > use that stuff. The engine sure sounds powerful. I may do a
> > > compression test for the halibut. (need to buy the tool first. a good
> > > investment)
> > >
> > > So again, thanks much for all the help. I learned lots.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Neil.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > "Jaco"  (Bustorius)
> > >
> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> "Jaco"  (Bustorius)
>
> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>

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