At least for now, thanks list!  I replaced the temp II and after the first time starting it did the same thing, but I realized the sensor wasn't tightened all the way.  Tried it again and the hard start/stalling seemed to be cured, however the idle was still very low.

I ended up just adjusting the idle via the big screw on the throttle body.  I have a feeling I might have just masked something else, but it commuted great for two days, then made the trip to Joshua Tree and back no problems.

Maybe a little low on power, but it may seem that way cause I have been driving a V8 for a while.

Also, the persitant hicup i was getting at 3200 rpm has not happened once since the fix.

Thanks again,

Jeff

--- On Sun, 10/28/07, Chris Lisica <wavanagon@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: Chris Lisica <wavanagon@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Hard start, rough idle, stalling
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Sunday, October 28, 2007, 8:20 AM
> Jeff, I had what sounds like that same problem before I
> discovered this mail
> list. My problem was w/ my throttle positioning switch,
> located at the
> bottom of the throttle body. There are 2 allen headed
> adjustment screws, one
> acts as a set screw and the other adjusts. I don't have
> the exact procedure
> in front of me, you will have to search the archives. My
> van wouldn't start
> unless I tapped the gas a bit, idled erratically, and
> sometimes die at
> intersections. After adjusting, everything seemed to smooth
> out, and I could
> start the van!
>
> Also, Ken's suggestion of changing the tempII is a
> great idea as well. Cheap
> and easy fix. Good luck
>
> -chris
>
> On 10/27/07, Jeff Gilbert <gilbert_jeffd@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > My 87 syncro has been running pretty smooth for quite
> a while.  It has
> > been having some vanagon syndrome like symptoms, ie
> constantly hicups around
> > 3200 RPMs, but in general running good.
> >
> > Monday I had her all packed up as the fires approached
> and when the flames
> > got within about 200 yards of our house I started her
> up and drove out of
> > the neighborhood.
> >
> > Everything seemed fine with the van.
> >
> > It was running for about an hour, and running fine, as
> I kept coming back
> > to the house to check on things etc.
> >
> > Suddenly it seriously lost power, esp uphill.
> >
> > I was able to get to about 55mph and evacuated to a
> friends house about 30
> > miles away with no stalls.
> >
> > The next morning it wouldnt start unless I gave it a
> lot of gas as I
> > cranked.
> >
> > Once started the idle was rough at it would stall out,
> or barely hang on.
> >
> > Again, able to get it home at about 55mph, but
> lackluster power, no
> > stalls.
> >
> > Tried to start it this morning, same thing.
> Disconnected the 02 sensor
> > and it started right up, but with a low idle.  Drove
> around the neighborhood
> > with good power.
> >
> > Got back in later with 02 still disconnected and it
> would start again
> > without giving a lot of gas I a cranked.  Rough idle
> and stalling.
> >
> > I have reconnected and redisconnected the 02 sensor
> since, and it is still
> > hard to start, rough idle, and stalling with the 02
> connected or
> > disconnected..
> >
> > Any suggestions?  I don't have a digitool anymore
> as my ECU fried about a
> > year ago.
> >
> > My AFM isnt all that old, and I do have the special
> connector for vanagon
> > syndrome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > jeff
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Chris
> 88 Vanagon GL (daily driver)
> 87 Westfalia (in progress)

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