

| Subject: | Re: ONE MAN only out of many |
| From: | Jim Akiba |
| Date: | Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:01:16 -0500 |
On second thought, scrap the two clamps and the grease idea.. the grease may weaken the hose and the first clamp will isolate all of the stress on the hose to a single narrow cross section and make it fail prematurely... better would be to coat the dry aluminum with a good high-temp stable(perhaps brushable silicone/RTV coating) and then install the hose over it. Just a couple more crumbs for the table... Jim Akiba On 11/29/07, Jim Akiba <jakiba@bostig.com> wrote: > Whoops forgot to answer to the "how to stop it" part... it's tedious, > but loosening your clamps and moving the hose, thus removing the > "stagnant" coolant(losing some too) between the rubber/AL should > help... also using heavy grease and two hose clamps (one further up, > before adding coolant should theoretically help. The idea being DON'T > have any water/coolant in between the rubber and the hose at all. Not > sure it's worth it though... healthy coolant and timely changes and > hose replacements always seem to work for me. > > Jim Akiba > > > > On 11/29/07, Jim Akiba <syncrolist@bostig.com> wrote: > > To answer the most important question, it's likely the lack of > > movement of the coolant in that area. Check out this abstract on an > > sae tech paper titled "Investigation of Fluid Circulation Effect on > > the Internal Corrosion Resistance of Automotive Heater Core". > > > > The Al-Si cladding they talk about on the cores would be roughly > > equivalent to the common AL-Si alloys used in casting such parts as > > water pump inlets etc, so I don't see any reasons the last > > sentence(and more importantly its logical inverse) wouldn't also hold > > true. If you are interested in the exact mechanism that causes this, I > > can dig further. > > > > "An experimental test bench has been developed to study the effect of > > flow on the corrosion behavior of the internal surface of heater core > > tubes. The experimental device allows the electrochemical behavior of > > the system to be investigated under different liquid compositions, > > different temperatures (between 40 and 80�C) and different fluid > > velocities (between 0.5 m/s and 1.5 m/s) at different test duration > > (up to 100 h). The study is focused on the water side corrosion > > resistance of brazed AA4343/AA3003*/AA4343 material, i.e., the > > residual Al-Si cladding. The increase of the temperature has a > > preponderant influence on the corrosion rate by comparison with the > > variation of the fluid velocity. The increase of fluid velocity rather > > limits the corrosion degradation." > > > > Jim Akiba > > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/07, Zoltan Kuthy <zolo@foxinternet.net> wrote: > > > Probably the most important question to answer is; what makes corrosion between rubber and aluminum? The other is; how to avoid it? > > > Although, I have put this question up more than once within a year, nobody even attempted to try to answer it, but ONE. > > > This list is fighting and dreading this symptom the most, yet there is not enough knowledge to know how to stop it. > > > Is there more than ONE out of the hundreds of members who knows, or at least think he knows? > > > Anyone? > > > Zoltan > > > > > >
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