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Subject:Re: Buying Vans on e-Bay
From:Don Spence
Date:Tue, 4 Dec 2007 19:12:58 -0700

When the hackers and crooks can hijack ebay listings, overlay them
with fraudulent links that redirect to dummy cover sites that allow
crooks to rip people off for #20K I would and I would say reasonably
so, conclude that ebay has a security problem.  Not having seen the
ad in this case I'm making a presumption based on previous experience
involving a TR4 (this month)..in which the hackers placed a
fraudulent Buy it Now patch over a legitimate add that redirected
inquiries/offers to a non ebay page that looked like the real thing.
That's how the hell I connect the dots or in this case the ones and
the zeros.    It is the weakness in ebay security that allows this to
happen.
On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Loren Busch wrote:

>  RE: E Bay is fast becoming a place to avoid IMHO.
> Their security is degrading rapidly as the hackers and crooks get
> more clever.
>
> Pardon me but how the hell do you connect the acts of a crook with
> the security provided by eBay??  Your statement contradicts itself
> directly.  You claim eBays security is degrading but then say that
> the problem is hackers and crooks.  Which is the problem, eBays
> security or hackers and crooks?  There is absolutely no connection
> between the two except the hackers and crooks are trying to take
> advantage of the existence of eBay.