I'm with Don here.  If you're a company making money hand over fist with
your 'Ebay" arm and your 'PayPal' arm, you can't just throw up your hands
and pretend that its all someone else's fault.

You are obligated to put some of the profits into securing the golden goose.

On Dec 4, 2007 6:12 PM, Don Spence <dkspence@telus.net> wrote:

> When the hackers and crooks can hijack ebay listings, overlay them
> with fraudulent links that redirect to dummy cover sites that allow
> crooks to rip people off for #20K I would and I would say reasonably
> so, conclude that ebay has a security problem.  Not having seen the
> ad in this case I'm making a presumption based on previous experience
> involving a TR4 (this month)..in which the hackers placed a
> fraudulent Buy it Now patch over a legitimate add that redirected
> inquiries/offers to a non ebay page that looked like the real thing.
> That's how the hell I connect the dots or in this case the ones and
> the zeros.    It is the weakness in ebay security that allows this to
> happen.
> On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Loren Busch wrote:
>
> >  RE: E Bay is fast becoming a place to avoid IMHO.
> > Their security is degrading rapidly as the hackers and crooks get
> > more clever.
> >
> > Pardon me but how the hell do you connect the acts of a crook with
> > the security provided by eBay??  Your statement contradicts itself
> > directly.  You claim eBays security is degrading but then say that
> > the problem is hackers and crooks.  Which is the problem, eBays
> > security or hackers and crooks?  There is absolutely no connection
> > between the two except the hackers and crooks are trying to take
> > advantage of the existence of eBay.
>

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