" Jetta donor car ? I'm sorry !"
Pffff! LOL ! --- ;^)

Yup. Thanks. Got all that stuff out. Doors will be last before body taken
away. Won't be keeping the metal dash as the area above radio was f'n
mutilated by PO. A shame.

Funny thing though. It appears to have the newer style shift linkage (P34.6
34.7 Bentley) but has the older style lower control arm (P. 40.2) on the
front suspension. I know there were changes mid year. Maybe PO put in the
newer style shift linkage.

Neil.

On Dec 11, 2007 12:53 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
wrote:

> I'd sure get the padded dash and heater unit.
> Rear heater of course.
> Maybe you already got all that stuff.
> The rear seat if it's a Z bed type. Pain to store though.
> Same for doors, you can store them for years and never need them.
> But they're also good to get vent window out of, front door windows and
> regulators etc.
> Pedal assembly !
> I would definitely get that if it's  a manual trans.
> And if manual trans, the entire shift linkage. It's much better than the
> 80
> to 84 shift linkage and makes a fine retrofit.  Actually, every part
> except
> the fuse box - lol !
> Here's one part I've never needed, tho Jim Felder says he did - what I
> call
> the V steering box. We would normally never even think about this part.
> It's a small two-gear box that transfers the steering from the bottom of
> the
> steering Collum back to the shaft that goes back to the steering rack.
> I've
> never seen one wear out in any way.
> But there's lots on there !
> Front interior lights ?
> It goes on and on.  Jetta donor car ? I'm sorry !
> Smiles, scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> neil N
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: badly rusted mystery part
>
> Yah I'd love to keep this van around, but don't have the room. Need to
> make
> way for a Jetta donor at some point soon......
> Yah IIRC, the 122 was first with a shoulder strap, and an alternator. And
> I
> remember now. On the 140's, the brake bleeding was more involved.
> Something
> like 2 bleeders on each front caliper.
>
> Thankfully someone on this list suggested getting the visor clips. They're
> now safely stashed away. --- :^)  I may even get down to grabbing the
> wiring
> harness though I did a foolish thing by hastily cutting it at the front of
> van --- :^(    There is lot's to take. I had no idea before I got into it.
>
> So many parts. Even the little junction box in the engine bay looked
> attractive. Not sure if I'll need it for my conversion, but I saved that
> too. You never know......
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2007 12:31 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> >  you'll probably have that pressure limiting valve as a spare part and
> > never use it.
> > save the visor clips , i need some.
> > if one can keep a whole body around, it's a much better way to keep
> track
> > of all the parts and nuts and bolts.
> > when you stash them in a shed, then it's hard to find even stuff you
> know
> > you have.  And you never know when you'll find another part you need off
> the
> > van. I have an 85 I've been picking parts off for over 5 years, and
> there's
> > lots left yet !
> >
> > re the Volvo 145 - the reason it has one for each rear wheel is that car
> > has for it's two independent brake systems, rather than front/rear like
> a
> > vanagon, it's half of each front wheel, plus one rear ..........that's
> one
> > circuit. and the other half of each front caliper and the other rear
> wheel
> > is the other circuit.
> > so you would always have 3 wheels braking in a hydraulic failure of one
> > system.  Each front caliper has two brake hoses going to it.
> > 240's are not like that, nor 740's.
> > but it's a good example of Volvo's intense focus on safety.
> > if you read factory propaganda about their safety thinking in how they
> > design their cars, it'll blow you mind.
> > they were the first to offer seat belts I believe, in the 122.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 11:26 PM
> > *To:* Scott Daniel - Shazam
> > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> > *Subject:* Re: badly rusted mystery part
> >
> > Thanks Scott.
> > The Vanagon I wrote of is almost completely parted out, so no brake
> > testing needed. Thanks for pointers though. And interesting re: the
> pressure
> > regulator. Good to know the one on the parts van is likely good.
> >
> > I remember my old 71' Volvo 145S. It had one regulator per rear wheel
> > IIRC. Those cars had some pretty advanced designs. Especially
> considering
> > the year.
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2007 10:20 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam
> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi,
> > > there is a test for them, i think it involves putting a break pressure
> > > gauge on a rear line.
> > > No one has one that i know of, it would have to read up to 2,000 psi.
> > > Perhaps a very, very few special or racing shops.
> > > I've never seen a bad one on any vanagon.
> > > I did mess around with that function a lot though.
> > > I put a rear disc brake kit on a syncro vanagon.
> > > i never liked how the brakes felt and worked. I tried bypassing that
> > > valve as suggested, that didn't help. I even put on an adjustable
> racing
> > > one, and that didn't help.
> > > So I always work on *everything else* for poor brake performance, MC,
> > > booster, how well the pads 'bite' on the discs, hoses, calipers, etc.
> > > I've worked on a number of 4 wheel disc older Volvos when the real
> > > problem was just how well the pads grabbed on the discs.
> > > Had that on a Honda once too.
> > > but you have to be sure everything is right hydraulically first.
> > > and a bad booster is rare, but can occur.
> > > it's fairly easy to have an older MC not work right in both circuits.
> > > take the van out and use the brakes fairly hard a number of times,
> then
> > > compare front and rear, and left /right, brake temps.
> > > if you get any huge differences, like quite hot in front, and barely
> > > warm in the rear.........that tells you something .
> > > I  just had an 85 weekender with high firm brake pedal, but lousy
> > > slowing down.  The rears were hardly working.  A good used MC that i
> had
> > > around fixed it just fine - my own personal van of course.
> > > scott
> > > turbovans
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 9:36 PM
> > > *To:* Scott Daniel - Shazam
> > > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> > > *Subject:* Re: badly rusted mystery part
> > >
> > > Scott.
> > > During my journey into parting out my 85, I did a quick visual of the
> > > pressure limiting valve.
> > > Can this part can be tested?
> > >
> > > The brakes were iffy on this van when I test drove it, (MC and/or
> rears)
> > > so I wasn't about to "ham" on the brakes to see how well the regulator
> > > worked!
> > >
> > > Just curious.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 10, 2007 8:41 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam
> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > You got the right idea.
> > > > I'd call that the 'pressure limiting valve' for the rear brakes.
> > > > Evidently they got no rust-prevention treatment, and are bare cast
> > > > iron.
> > > > I'd scrub it with a metal wire brush to get it to bare metal, then
> > > > treat is
> > > > with a rust treatment that turns it to premiered metal, then paint
> it.
> > > >
> > > >  In situ if possible.
> > > > Scott
> > > > www.turbovans.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of
> > > > Allan Streib
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:13 PM
> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > > Subject: badly rusted mystery part
> > > >
> > > > Looking around under the front end of my '91 Vanagon GL, I noticed a
> > > > very rusted part, evidently part of the brake system, since it has
> > > > two steel brake lines connected to it.  This mystery part is mounted
> > > > on the right frame rail near the sway bar.  Is this the "pressure
> > > > regulator" that I see on a couple of the parts web sites?  The rust
> > > > is just falling off it in chunks unusual because there is not really
> > > > much rust anywhere else under the front.  Do they normally rust so
> > > > badly?
> > > >
> > > > Allan
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > "Jaco"  (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > >
> > > Engine swap beginings: http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > "Jaco"  (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> > Engine swap beginings: http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> "Jaco"  (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>
> Engine swap beginings: http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
>

--
Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
"Jaco"  (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil

Engine swap beginings: http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/