Dealerships in the Vancouver area are pretty fluent in Vanagonese - lots of
them around.

An '86 Vanagon modern? Hell yeah; its got EFI and was built by robots. The
newest car we've ever had is my wife's '90 Golf.   :)

Older cars and trucks didn't go in for these throwaway fasteners; they used
cotter pins instead.  Of course, robots don't install cotter pins very well,
but they excel at torque-to-yield.

On Dec 18, 2007 10:55 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
wrote:

> I don't know about your VW  stealership but mine would have a hard time
> finding those bolts in the parts pictures and ordering them.  NLA wouldn't
> surprise me even.  I don't think they are stretch type, but I'm not
> certain.
>
>  Liability and safety would be the obvious concerns.
> 'modern' ?? you're calling a 1980 to 1991 Vanagon 'modern' ??
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Jake de Villiers
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:43 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: nuts in steering linkage and rack
>
> They're probably "stretch to yield" bolts - lots of them in modern cars.
> Should be readily available at your local dealership.
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 8:03 PM, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>
> > Well I'm not doubting what you say about not ever having a failure,
> > but there was SOME reason the engineers went to the trouble of
> > stating "always replace" on these particular nuts.  They didn't just
> > toss that in there for fun.  So, either they're a special single-use
> > design of some sort, or they are ordinary nuts but for some reason
> > they still should not be re-used.  Maybe new ones come pre-coated
> > with thread-locker or something?
> >
> > I just looked at the ones I removed and they look absolutely ordinary
> > to me.  I'll probably re-use them, but put some loc-tite on them just
> > to feel better.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
> >
> > > I guess I'm going to die just any day now when my steering nuts and
> > > bolts
> > > fail from being reused.
> > > Steering bolts and nuts are made extremely well.  Steering is even
> > > more
> > > critical that brakes actually.   I have put hundreds of those back
> > > together
> > > with the same fasteners. And I darn sure wouldn't be replacing
> > > original
> > > german parts with anything from a hardware store !
> > >   If you put them back together carefully and good n'
> > > tight.........the
> > > chance of them failing is nil.  Unless you do something dumb like
> > > don't
> > > tighten properly, or extremely over tighten them etc.   I might
> > > make a lot
> > > of things tighter than the published toques btw, sometimes they'll
> > > have like
> > > 18 ft. lbs on a bolt and that's not much at all.  It depends.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> Crescent Beach, BC
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/
>
>

--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/