Man this list takes the word tangent to a new level!

How did we get from me inquiring about an obvious hack I can disable to
headlights consuming .25mpg and killing the ozone? jeesh!

Shawn

On Dec 14, 2007 7:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:

> On 14 Dec 2007 at 17:32, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
>
> >
> > All good thoughts. Re the safety or not factor, and fuel consumption.
> > In some states it's technically illegal to drive  with just
> parking/running
> > lights on, I believe.
> > I wouldn't do it for the attention it might attract from cops.
>
> Interesting.  I've had it set up that way for 5 years and driven through
> about
> 15 states on a regular basis.  No problems so far.  I think it might be
> one of
> those things that police would only use as an excuse if they had no other
> reason to pull you over and wanted to.  And now there so many vehicles
> with
> DRLs, you are probably pretty much psychologically invisible to them.
>  Even if
> you got pulled over it's probably a very cheap ticket or just a warning.
>  I
> could justifiably say that they used to work and now don't for some
> reason.  ;)
>
> tom
> K0TAR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > tom ring
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:13 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: headlights on with ignition on!
> >
> > Yes, DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) can be argued to be a bit safer than
> not
> > having them.  There is also a lot of evidence that they do nothing or
> almost
> > nothing.  They definately use millions of gallons of extra fuel per year
> > from
> > the .25 to .5 mpg hit.  And makes that much extra CO2.  You are free to
> > choose
> > your poison, at least in the US.
> >
> > Here's a place that tells how to shut them down on many vehicles.  I did
> it
> > on
> > my 96 Jetta.  It turned off the headlights, but not the running lights,
> > which
> > seems to be a good compromise to me, especially since it's less likely
> to
> > leave
> > me with a burned out headlight at night, which is most definitely a
> safety
> > hazard.
> >
> > http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
> >
> > The only VW van mentioned is 2000-2002 Eurovan.
> >
> > tom
> > K0TAR
> >
> > On 14 Dec 2007 at 16:29, robert feller wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW  EN34hx
> > 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> > 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> > taring@taring.org
> >
> > What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth?  Judging from realistic
> > simulations
> > involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it
> > will
> > be pretty bad.
> >                 - Dave Barry
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> >
>

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Shawn Feller
Ohio
www.carboncow.com