yes it does but I think the new rings and so on added to that

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "--------" <VW4X4@VERIZON.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???

> ""Minor porting""
>
>                I've done this to 2 engine's I've rebuilt.....  clearly
> shows..........
>                             BOB.....  Your the man!
>
>
>
> Bob Donalds wrote:
>
>> Please
>> there is no fuel for the 112 HP pistons that's almost 10 to 1. The
>> gain in
>> HP per point of compression is 4% If you have the octane and you don't. I
>> have a used set of 10 to 1 piston on the shelf they look like they
>> have been
>> hit with a shot gun blast of bird shot.
>> knock knock who's there
>> There are much better ways to make more power than boosting compression.
>> Minor porting properly done valve job checking cylinders bores for
>> taper and
>> out of round and correcting that plus attention to tuning will give
>> you more
>> than 4%
>> The loss of power with too much compression and detonation is a much
>> larger
>> % as Lucas at go westy will tell you,
>> He has been dropping his compression ratios as time goes by on all his
>> big
>> motors
>>
>> http://www.misterfixit.com/deton.htm a primer on this subject
>>
>> I am willing to sell one or two ECUs with out an engine purchase
>> Mileage is always about MPH the ECUs is about power so 16 MPG is low
>> but how
>> fast are you going
>> and how important is the power
>>
>> Bob Donalds
>> Boston Engine
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "VW Doka" <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>>
>>> No idea on fuel mileage, but you'll have to run premium gas if you're
>>> running the 112hp pistons.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Daniel - Shazam [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:54 PM
>>> To: 'VW Doka'
>>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: RE: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>>
>>>
>>> Very good, thanks for mentioning that.
>>> Any thoughts or experience on my fuel mileage question ?
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> VW Doka
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:35 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>>
>>> You don't get the 112hp with just the Euro ECU, you still need the 112hp
>>> piston & cylinder set.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>>> Of Scott Daniel - Shazam
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:21 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bob,
>>> All good stuff. You sound like Da Man all right.
>>> I have one westy running with a 2.1 engine but the 1.9 fuel system,
>>> and it
>>> does seem to go quite well. ( it's for sale btw )  So my interest in
>>> that
>>> configuration is  high right now.
>>> On those euro ECU's ....................I gather you don't want to sell
>>> one, but what I'm wondering is about fuel mileage with one of those
>>> ecu's.
>>> It makes it a 110 hp engine, I believe, right ?
>>> Does fuel mileage suffer especially with that set up ?
>>>
>>> Currently I'm running a 2.1 with digifant in an 85 Wolfsburg weekend
>>> with
>>> auto trans and it's a 16 mpg van on the highway.  Not acceptable.
>>> So tell me about your euro  ecu's and fuel mileage please .
>>> Thanks , scott
>>> www.turbovans.com
>>> Oregon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Bob Donalds
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:06 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>>
>>> I do 1.9 engines current price is $2750
>>> The 1.9 case has the same type of main bearing as the aircooled bug
>>> with a
>>> differant larger rear main next to the flywheel. There is 2 problems
>>> rebuilding the 1.9 lower end first there are no align bore bearings
>>> availible. the second
>>> problem is that most most reasssmblers dont bother to measure the
>>> case and
>>> just toss in a st of std OD bearings.
>>> Yes this will last past most warrantees with a nice heavy duty oil
>>> pump to
>>> keep the oil light out at idle but is this the kind of quaitly your
>>> looking
>>> for I think not.
>>>
>>> So your asking why I offer 1.9 engines if there are no bearings and they
>>> dont last. I have had made a over size rear main bearing and use the bug
>>> align bore bearing for the front three mains. I can also align bore any
>>> flat
>>> 4 engine block
>>> with my Rotler boring bar.
>>>
>>> My recomendation for your van is upgrade your van to the 2.1 engine it
>>> bolts
>>> right in and the 1.9 components work.
>>> The cost for this would be $2750 for the longblock plus core $600 as
>>> this
>>> is
>>> an outright sale. This also saves you the return freight of $150
>>>
>>> The bonus with using the digjet injection on the larger 2.1 engine is
>>> that
>>> the European ECU can be used
>>> I do have a few left for sale to my engine customers
>>>
>>> Bob Donalds
>>> http://www.bostonengine.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "shawn clark" <shawnclark77@YAHOO.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:54 AM
>>> Subject: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does any one know an estimate of how much it would cost to rebuilt
>>>> an 84
>>>> vanagon ?
>>>>
>>>> And does anyone know of a place to get it rebuilt in the dallas/ fort
>>>> worth area??
>>>>
>>>> I would greatly appreciate the advice!
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> shawn (new westy owner)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>