

| Subject: | Re: lost brake line... |
| From: | robert feller |
| Date: | Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:01:41 -0500 |
a heck I did mean to say that I felt Bentley mentioned a lower pressure then what you stated, but I could be very wrong w/o having one near me. On Dec 24, 2007 11:00 PM, robert feller <syncro.carboncow@gmail.com> wrote: > I would agree to error on the side of caution with this one for sure. I do > believe (although I don't have it with me) that the brake lines are under > only hundreds of lbs of pressure, but I could be brain farting. > > Now are not the connection to the valve block and brake a compression > fitting too? > > > On Dec 24, 2007 10:56 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com > > wrote: > > > Particularly in the vw world there is a lot of poor or mis-information. > > > > The author would have you think compression fittings in brake lines are > > just fine. > > > > It's a hack repair. > > > > Might work for a good long time even, but it's not right. > > > > There's up to 2,000 psi I believe in brake lines. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* robert feller [mailto:syncro.carboncow@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2007 7:38 PM > > *To:* Scott Daniel - Shazam > > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > > *Subject:* Re: lost brake line... > > > > > > > > Gang, > > > > Just to answer my curious mind, you guys mention a "no no" for > > compression fittings. I found this site on the topic (vw too!) and he is > > juntioning new and old lines together: > > http://volksweb.relitech.com/brakeln.htm > > > > He talks about compression fittings, is this the "no-no" you metion? > > > > Shawn > > > > On Dec 24, 2007 10:05 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam < > > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > > > > Hey Shawn, you've seen Ken's post by now. Metric brake lines are > > 'findable' > > sometimes. > > A nice small bending too is nice to have. > > With luck you can find a 'bolt on' metric line of close to the right > > length. > > If it has to be a little too long that's fine if you mount it properly. > > And as ken said, using compression sleeve junctions is never kosher in > > brake > > lines. > > If you end up making a line yourself and need to flare the ends, > > There are two kinds of flare - single and double, or bubble as ken > > called > > it. > > A single flare tool costs 10 bucks, but will not work at all for your > > system. > > If you need a double flare end, sometimes you can get a shop with that > > capability to do it for you for a few bucks. > > Hopefully you'll be able to find a metric line of the right length and > > size. > > > > And you should check all the other lines, though it might be hard o see > > through the rust and crude. > > Scott > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > > Of > > robert feller > > > > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 6:36 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > Subject: Re: lost brake line... > > > > Thanks Scott, that is the info I was looking for. I was hoping it didn't > > run > > all the way to the master cylinder and thus some real fun with a line > > that > > far! > > > > So tell me about brake lines.All the same different diameters? Easily > > mailable it seems from you comments. Any special little bender tools to > > get > > the turns "just right"? > > > > Shawn > > > > On Dec 24, 2007 8:52 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam < > > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Just heat the line upstream of the hole, and bend it over and hammer > > it > > > flat, so it's closed off. > > > Then proceed on 3 brakes. > > > Or...........the line has to go to a T junction or some fitting. . > > Find > > > that, perhaps two feet or so from the left front area where it joins > > onto > > > the hose, remove it, take it to a flaps and match it up, replace and > > > bleed. > > > > > > 'medium hard' , that's how hard it is to do - lol ! Since it sounds > > like > > > it > > > failed from rust, the ends might be very, very rusted and you should > > start > > > spraying those with PB Blaster penetrating oil right now. And do it > > like > > > every few hours until you start to work on it. > > > > > > You absolutely need a tubing nut wrench. 11 mm I think. > > > Scott > > > www.turbovans.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ] On > > Behalf Of > > > robert feller > > > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:30 PM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: lost brake line... > > > > > > Nice, I own three cars and all three had something happen to them this > > > week. > > > Relying on the syncro to get me around and to work...but tonight the > > pedal > > > went to the floor. > > > > > > Looks like a Ohio rust and a break line went in the front left wheel > > well. > > > Corrosion beyond belief. > > > > > > Although it's current location makes it almost impossible to work on > > I'm a > > > strong DIYer. How rough is repair of the front brake line going to be > > and > > > what does the procedure entail? The Bentley is not currently where I > > am at > > > to review. > > > > > > -- > > > Shawn Feller > > > Ohio > > > www.carboncow.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shawn Feller > > Ohio > > www.carboncow.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shawn Feller > > Ohio > > www.carboncow.com > > > > > > -- > > Shawn Feller > Ohio > www.carboncow.com > -- Shawn Feller Ohio www.carboncow.com
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