

| Subject: | Re: Overcooling Hypothesis--Long |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Shazam |
| Date: | Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:41:40 -0800 |
Yes but, descending long grades in neutral isn't very safe in terms of vehicle stability. There are some serious long grades in the west coast. Like there's one here, about 7 miles long, if you cost in the top 4 miles of it, you'd be doing 80. And it curves. And you wouldn't want to be breaking to keep speed under control there. . And it's technically illegal to coast in some states I think. And you sure wouldn't want to be in gear holding the clutch in going 60 or so down a big hill. Trick it electrically I say. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Wilford Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:46 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Overcooling Hypothesis--Long Yes the injectors are only off above 2000 rpms on deceleration. Below that they come back on. I have a digitool and have observed this myself many times. So if you can somehow get the rpms down a bit this would help (like having the engine at idle by depressing the clutch pedal should work). Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Allan Streib wrote: > Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET> writes: > > >> Here's my idea. When you're coasting downhill, you're using the >> engine as a brake. This means that above 1500 RPM, with the idle >> switch closed, the engine isn't getting any gas, as the ECU has shut >> the injectors down. If it isn't getting any gas, it also isn't >> producing any heat. The engine is functioning as a brake, but there >> isn't any combustion, and so, after a period of 10 minutes or so in >> freezing temperatures, the coolant loses temperature, and your gauge >> is way off the edge of the scale. >> > > Makes sense. Not only is there no combustion but you are flushing > cold outside air through the cylinders, which has a further cooling > effect. > > >> I tested this by going downhill, engine warm, and taking my foot off >> the gas to coast. I could see the gauge move colder before my >> eyes. Give it a little gas, and the engine warms up. This is kind of >> tricky from a driving standpoint, but it works. >> > > Now, repeat the experiment with the clutch in, so the engine is > idling, not being overrun. See if it stays warmer. > > Allan > >
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