

| Subject: | Re: Air mass meters Go Westy |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Shazam |
| Date: | Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:55 -0800 |
Talk about intake design being restrictive .... One glance at the intake runner size, length and shape on a DOCH 2.5 subaru engine, and the waterboxer plenum and intake runners suddenly look like lawn mower engine parts. If one were to insist on trying to improve the intake system on a waterboxer, making a whole new intake system would sure help and isn't even that hard to build - the throttle body, plenum and intake runners, that stuff. And hate to say this, but it would be tempting to adapt a subaru intake system, as it's so close already to what's needed, and is from an opposed four of about the same dimensions. And hmmmmm......I have about 5 subaru engines of various years and types sitting around, some fabrication abilities, and this seized 2.1 to use as a dummy block to play on........sure, why not !~ It's a shame there's only one intake valve per cylinder, but gotta start somewhere. I'm surprised actually, that there are not OHC 4 -valve heads for waterboxers made somewhere by someone. Scott www.turbovans.com -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of honemastert Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:00 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Air mass meters Go Westy I think the biggest issue with them is the tuning involved. When we slapped it in my Syncro with one of their 2.4l wbxers, we loaded in a default 'map' that the guys at Split Second had come up with. (kind of an extrapolation between their 2.2l and their 2.5l motor) Mine was one of the first 2.4's to have this mod done to it, so I was in experimental territory. We had a flat spot around the low 3K rpm range.. noticable when shifting from 2nd to 3rd. One of the guys from Split Second was there @ SdM07 this past May, and we did a bunch of running around the Hollister OHV park hills and some runs on the road to get the thing tuned up and running well. At that point, they had a pretty good 2.4 map to use for their other engines and I had a 'custom tune' so to speak. Both parties happy with the outcome :-) I would think that by now, with enough samples and enough folks running this system, that they'd have enough maps for a range of engines (even stock wbxers) to make it work consistently. Just my experiences with it to date. I know those GoWesty guys just took off for their annual X-Mas Baja run, so they must be working well, as Lucas and Taylor both had these setups on their vans. I havent checked up on the latest though, as mine still seems to be running just fine, and still better than with the original AFM that was in there. I'd already replaced my AFM once, and noticed it had started exhibiting the same symptoms as before. Jim, I agree with you, that whole intake design it really restrictive and not optimal for HP!
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