

| Subject: | Re: Loose motor |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Shazam |
| Date: | Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:46:49 -0800 |
All right, you must be talking about the 'tie strap' that joins the bottom of the two engine cradle bars. A simple strap of metal about 2 inches wide and 2 and half feet long - easy to fab for any welder. Since the ends of an 82's DV's engine cradle bars are mounted in rubber......without this tie Strap the bars will move, the engine will move up and down almost two inches when you rev it, And as we now know, this can put huge stress on the cast aluminum engine mounting bracket bolts. And..........i can't tell you the awful hack work I see in so many engine conversion jobs. How people leave important parts off like this is beyond me. How they can't see it's an important part, I just can't imagine. Somebody somewhere decided to leave that part off. There's a better way to build the whole thing actually, welding on the cradle bars and eliminating the rubber bushings in the end, but that's whole other story/project. Least you know what's going on and you had the fun of keeping it moving out in the field. Good goin' on that. Heck, just leave it for another trip or two until you REALLY have to deal with it ! ;-) Scott www.turbovans.com -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sullivan Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:09 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Loose motor Way to go MacGyver!!!! :-) Yesterday I was running through the desert in my 84 Gas/diesel inline four conversion and enjoying the dips, then I came to a stop sign and noticed my exhaust note had changed..The gear shifting was not right, either, so I pulled over and crawled under to find the passenger side of the motor was hanging low...Hmmm!..So I tossed out all the stuff in the back hatch area, after inspecting all the motor mounts underneath.. Now, this motor has always seemed a bit "loose" in the van, ever since I bought the already-done conversion about 30k thousand miles ago. I've repeatedly checked the motor mounts, bought new ones and stached em after I found the current ones to be just fine...I simply assumed that it was normal for the inline four to be able to rock around back there...Not great, but perhaps just a poor design. I found the right side rear cast aluminum motor mount had sheered the mounting bolts right at the block..leaving the right side of the motor hanging.....As I began trying to see how to fix that, I happened to find, in the Bently, a short 2 page write up on the diesel motor install/remove...and Whoa!..right there in the book it shows a thing they call the Engine Support mount...Mine NEVER had one...And I, for one, have never encountered any installation that uses the oil pan as a stressed mounting member..a weight-bearing part of the engine mounting set up...It is kind of a transverse strap, from rail to rail that the flat bottom of the diesel motor oil pan just sits on...takes up some of the weight, I guess and keeps it from rocking? We shall see... So anyhow, I limped back to my campsite and using some construction wood I had around and some extra motorcycle tiedown straps...I have now a fine looking '2x4 engine support mount'...Gotta love the vans... If I were home with all my tools, I could have done a permanent fix with ease...but since I am camping, I will have to depend on the local mechanics to try to "easy-out" the broken mount bolts out of the block, and to fabricate a strap to sit the pan onto rather than my 'special' 2x4 racing mount... Happy new year everyone, Don Hanson Thanks, Michael Sullivan
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