

| Subject: | Re: 1985 Vanagon - Ford Focus Engine alternative |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:28:54 -0600 |
My experience with diesels is mostly in the far north. Shut one othe things down in winter and you will play hell ever getting it started again until spring. It takes a lot of heat to ever get that oil to burn, and if that engine is cold - look out. Diesels don't burn much when idling, and they don't really put out that much heat. My business partner's son drove a diesel from Anchorage to Kenai - about 150 miles through the mountains - at 25 below zero with no coolant in the cooling system whatsoever. Didn't hurt the thing at all.Course this wasn't a turbo job, either. Ust normally aspirated.Was a little truck - Isuzu as I recall. I always thought that was sort of amazing. Wouldn't recommend the practice though. John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote: > "smeg" ......? > something tells me you didn't preef rood before sending david. > > I think your assessments are valid though. > Us US people can't relate to 2500 kg though very well. Let's see, on pound > equals 2.2 K.......... anyway, what is that, 5,500 lbs ? > > I agree with you about the torque thing. But there is something wrong with > me. I just can not stand diesels. And I drove a TD vanagon s my only and > best and 'do anything' rig, drove it to Whitehorse YK even.........and was > into that for about 8 years. Now I love the smoothness of gasoline. I have > diesel vanagon engines is reserve if the system falls apart, but right now > at 3 dollars per US gallon I'm happy with the smoothens of gasoline. And the > instant gentle starting too. > I was so please to read that New Mexico is enacting law to not allow > diesel trucks to idle there engines. What is it with diesel freaks about > idling the damn thing ? I for sure didn't shut mine off if it was 15 degrees > F too often, but otherwise, shut the damn things down please ! no idling, it > pollutes and is noisy. > sorry for the rant ! ....anyway................... > > >From what I've read the Zetec is a little buzzy at high rpm's. I will say > thought that I think Jim A is a smart guy, and really delivers on what he > says. We disagree some - I think an inline 4 is not so natural in a vanagon, > and he thinks opposed engines aren't that great a layout. > Interesting that Subaru ...ahem.............has an opposed TD engine , the > worlds' first mass produced one. ( vw actually made a diesel version of > their early bug engine as an experiement ...karl sent me the link, or posted > it....had about 26 hp I think....but subaru who does all right with engines > has an *opposed* 4 cylinder TD engine now. Don't know what the torque is. > > On your Tourreg there.....the only reason it has 500 ft lbs of torque or > whatever is the silly American 'it's got to big and hugely powerful to be > any good SUV craze.' ............. > No body needs that kind of power, UNLESS....they just have to tow their > 8,000 foot big power boat or the big trailer. It's overselling 'big and > powerful'. Even ford's basic pick-up, the F-150 is a 6,000 lb monster > with a bed lift-to height of about 4 and half feet. That is DUMB. And they > just 'educated' the consumer c that they 'need' that huge powerful stuff. > Don't know about your neck of BC, but where I am, one guy using and empty > giant pick-up truck at about 17 mpg tops in town, like it was a commuter car > - that's the norm. > > But I am very glad you got a toureg, I think the engine and overall concept > is fascinating.....but I don't like the lack of humbleness about it. But as > long as you enjoy your toureg, that's what's important. And I can't wait to > see some technical issues and grappling you do with it ! > And ...really.........that LT VW van.....that inline vw diesel > engine..........you need that V-10 in there ! > It's all fun, > Scott > And how anyone can stand the racket of diesels is beyond me. And I did one > , for years too. > That you can use alternative fuels is the only advantage, and fuel mileage > and range of course also. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > David Marshall > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:32 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: 1985 Vanagon - Ford Focus Engine alternative > > Yeah... almost Friday. > > My company car is a 2003 Ford Focus... > what a piece of smeg engine... makes lots of noise when you step on it and > when you wiiiiiiind it out to the top end of the rev range there is a hint > of decent power then and then red line and you have to shift. This > is not the engine I would want to put into a 2500kg westfalia and hope to > get anywhere faster than what it could do with a stock engine. > > Torque sells cars and engine conversions, but really torque is what is > needed to get our Vanagons going, so a Diesel engine is what our Vanagons > need. > > The V8 gasoline Touareg has 350hp and the V10 Diesel > Touareg has 313hp - the *Diesel* will win in a 0 to 100km/h sprint as it > has 553ft.lbs or torque at 1800 rpm and the gasser has 324ft.lbs at 3000 > something in the rpm band. Tourque is like a drug the more you have > the more you want. Once you drive a Vanagon with lots of torque you > will spend the rest of your life trying to convert the unwashed. > :-) > > David Marshall > > http://www.hasenwerk.ca > http://www.fastforward.ca > > Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J > 3J2 > > On Thu, January 10, 2008 20:22, AAG - Larry Word wrote: > >> It's almost Friday - what is the consensus to date of the group >> > installing > >> 2000 ford focus engine into Vanagons? >> >> Any ideas, links, info., articles, etc. would be appreciated! >> >> Thanks >> >> Larry >> >> > > >
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