

| Subject: | Re: 1985 Vanagon - Ford Focus Engine alternative |
| From: | David Marshall |
| Date: | Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:04:45 -0800 |
Sounds like an old fashioned indirect injection Diesel... TDIs don't use glow plugs until 4C and at -20C they will start without glow plugs - ask me, I know! :-) David Marshall http://www.hasenwerk.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J 3J2 On Fri, January 11, 2008 09:28, John Rodgers wrote: > My experience with diesels is mostly in the far north. Shut one othe > things down in winter and you will play hell ever getting it started > again until spring. It takes a lot of heat to ever get that oil to burn, > and if that engine is cold - look out. Diesels don't burn much when > idling, and they don't really put out that much heat. My business > partner's son drove a diesel from Anchorage to Kenai - about 150 miles > through the mountains - at 25 below zero with no coolant in the cooling > system whatsoever. Didn't hurt the thing at all.Course this wasn't a > turbo job, either. Ust normally aspirated.Was a little truck - Isuzu as > I recall. I always thought that was sort of amazing. Wouldn't recommend > the practice though. > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > > Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote: >> "smeg" ......? >> something tells me you didn't preef rood before sending david. >> >> I think your assessments are valid though. >> Us US people can't relate to 2500 kg though very well. Let's see, on >> pound >> equals 2.2 K.......... anyway, what is that, 5,500 lbs ? >> >> I agree with you about the torque thing. But there is something wrong >> with >> me. I just can not stand diesels. And I drove a TD vanagon s my only and >> best and 'do anything' rig, drove it to Whitehorse YK even.........and >> was >> into that for about 8 years. Now I love the smoothness of gasoline. I >> have >> diesel vanagon engines is reserve if the system falls apart, but right >> now >> at 3 dollars per US gallon I'm happy with the smoothens of gasoline. And >> the >> instant gentle starting too. >> I was so please to read that New Mexico is enacting law to not allow >> diesel trucks to idle there engines. What is it with diesel freaks >> about >> idling the damn thing ? I for sure didn't shut mine off if it was 15 >> degrees >> F too often, but otherwise, shut the damn things down please ! no >> idling, it >> pollutes and is noisy. >> sorry for the rant ! ....anyway................... >> >> >From what I've read the Zetec is a little buzzy at high rpm's. I will >> say >> thought that I think Jim A is a smart guy, and really delivers on what >> he >> says. We disagree some - I think an inline 4 is not so natural in a >> vanagon, >> and he thinks opposed engines aren't that great a layout. >> Interesting that Subaru ...ahem.............has an opposed TD engine , >> the >> worlds' first mass produced one. ( vw actually made a diesel version of >> their early bug engine as an experiement ...karl sent me the link, or >> posted >> it....had about 26 hp I think....but subaru who does all right with >> engines >> has an *opposed* 4 cylinder TD engine now. Don't know what the torque >> is. >> >> On your Tourreg there.....the only reason it has 500 ft lbs of torque or >> whatever is the silly American 'it's got to big and hugely powerful to >> be >> any good SUV craze.' ............. >> No body needs that kind of power, UNLESS....they just have to tow their >> 8,000 foot big power boat or the big trailer. It's overselling 'big and >> powerful'. Even ford's basic pick-up, the F-150 is a 6,000 lb monster >> with a bed lift-to height of about 4 and half feet. That is DUMB. And >> they >> just 'educated' the consumer c that they 'need' that huge powerful >> stuff. >> Don't know about your neck of BC, but where I am, one guy using and >> empty >> giant pick-up truck at about 17 mpg tops in town, like it was a commuter >> car >> - that's the norm. >> >> But I am very glad you got a toureg, I think the engine and overall >> concept >> is fascinating.....but I don't like the lack of humbleness about it. But >> as >> long as you enjoy your toureg, that's what's important. And I can't wait >> to >> see some technical issues and grappling you do with it ! >> And ...really.........that LT VW van.....that inline vw diesel >> engine..........you need that V-10 in there ! >> It's all fun, >> Scott >> And how anyone can stand the racket of diesels is beyond me. And I did >> one >> , for years too. >> That you can use alternative fuels is the only advantage, and fuel >> mileage >> and range of course also. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >> Of >> David Marshall >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:32 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: 1985 Vanagon - Ford Focus Engine alternative >> >> Yeah... almost Friday. >> >> My company car is a 2003 Ford Focus... >> what a piece of smeg engine... makes lots of noise when you step on it >> and >> when you wiiiiiiind it out to the top end of the rev range there is a >> hint >> of decent power then and then red line and you have to shift. This >> is not the engine I would want to put into a 2500kg westfalia and hope >> to >> get anywhere faster than what it could do with a stock engine. >> >> Torque sells cars and engine conversions, but really torque is what is >> needed to get our Vanagons going, so a Diesel engine is what our >> Vanagons >> need. >> >> The V8 gasoline Touareg has 350hp and the V10 Diesel >> Touareg has 313hp - the *Diesel* will win in a 0 to 100km/h sprint as it >> has 553ft.lbs or torque at 1800 rpm and the gasser has 324ft.lbs at 3000 >> something in the rpm band. Tourque is like a drug the more you have >> the more you want. Once you drive a Vanagon with lots of torque you >> will spend the rest of your life trying to convert the unwashed. >> :-) >> >> David Marshall >> >> http://www.hasenwerk.ca >> http://www.fastforward.ca >> >> Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J >> 3J2 >> >> On Thu, January 10, 2008 20:22, AAG - Larry Word wrote: >> >>> It's almost Friday - what is the consensus to date of the group >>> >> installing >> >>> 2000 ford focus engine into Vanagons? >>> >>> Any ideas, links, info., articles, etc. would be appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> >> >> >> >
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