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Subject:Re: Syncro front-end into RWD bus
From:Andrew Grebneff
Date:Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:39:00 +1300

>the entire sub frame of the Syncro must be used.
>the bearings are different.
>suspension attachment points are different.
>you must cut the frame on a 2wd to fit the Syncro sub frame.

I thought the subframe would fit on without cutting, only drilling. I
know somebody made postings on this while he was doing a conversion,
but it was a while ago and I can't remember any details.

>it has been done, but because I own many Syncros and know how much
>work it is to keep them vibration free, I would be wary of such a
>conversion.
>again, it can be done, but outcome depends upon how exact the process is.

>What are you saying here ? ...........you can't find Vanagon 2WD front
>suspension ????
>How many do you want ??
>Not hard to find at all generally, in my experience.

In the US, certainly. Here in New Zealand, where T3s were never sold
new, it's another story. And every time I find a listee or TheSamba
member in the US who says he has the parts and is willing to sell to
me (replies to my request never give prices or location), when I ask
for these details there is never a response. Now I'm looking at
Germany for a wrecker!

>If you are asking if syncro front suspension can be fitted to a 2WD vanagon,
>yes, that can be done. Been thinking of doing that myself as an early stage
>of a full syncro conversion to  a 2WD vanagon.   Only two issues - need the
>outer ends of front axles to go in the wheel bearings....like the outer stub
>axles, and the other issue is speedometer drive.  There wouldn't' be need
>for the front diff, which normally drives the speedometer cable on a syncro.
>I 'might' be possible to drive the speedo of the left front stub axle 2WD
>style.

Sounds like more of a problem than it's worth.

>I doubt that rear wheel bearings and syncro front wheel bearings are the
>same.

Sorry, I meant comparison of Syncro & RWD FRONT bearings.

>Anyone with ETKA or a good parts person could tell you that.  Ask Rennie,
>don't know if he's on this list though.

>While you can certainly convert a 2wd to a Syncro front end it may
>not be the way  for you to go. The 2 suspensions take different
>shocks so your 2wd Konis are out. The steering racks are the same
>but they mount in different positions and use different shafts from
>the steering box. The 2wd steering rack mounting member must be
>removed from the chassis. A substitute mount must be attached to the
>chassis in the proper Syncro location. Various critical parts of the
>2wd chassis must be cut away to make room for the Syncro subframe.
>There is no going back.

OK, I guess that settles it. I'll stick with the RWD setup...
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
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